10-09-2016, 01:51 PM
(10-08-2016, 09:15 PM)taramarie Wrote:(10-08-2016, 08:01 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: In view of the reports of crotch grabs, 'vain' may become a triviality in contrast. 'Vile' and 'violent' may be more appropriate.
Not a woman, I have no idea how those feel. Maybe I would not want to know if I were a woman. I can't imagine doing such. It's obviously a sexual assault, and were I a judge I would have no qualms about sending someone to jail at the least for a misdemeanor term (if such is all that the law allows) for that deed.
We don't make many jokes about Bill Cosby, once renowned as a comedian and now known as one of the most prolific of serial rapists ever known. I do not know whether the legal definition of rape applies to crotch-grabs.
This forum could become irrelevant as the most important reality about Donald Trump isn't his ludicrous vanity or his vapid mind. There's nothing funny about rape -- or some deed close to rape.
Trust me, you do not want to know that terror.
...what I thought. Women can want conventional intercourse, but crotch grabs? For a man that is more an assertion of power than it is sex.
Compelling women to keep silent about abuse itself implies terror; imposition of fear is a perverse exercise of power.
Quote:It is not just the groping but the mental abuse and threats around it if you tell anyone. People like Eric and Donald think it is ok to grab by the pussy. But Donald is far worse obviously as Eric has mentioned that he stops once told no.
I would not do it unless I were asked, and I would be shocked if I were asked. If it didn't feel good for her I would never do it again.
Quote:I have not heard Donald say the same and he sounds proud of the fact he has groped and wanted to have sex with a married woman when he himself was just recently married. It is disgusting, intrusive and another clear indicator that he cannot control himself and does not give a shit how people feel. That is a clear sign of someone who would not be a good president if he does not care about others as well as being a shit business man.
Having sex with someone other than a spouse when one is already married, or having sex with someone already married, is adultery, a serious breach of Judeo-Christian ethics. Fornication (two unmarried persons having sex) is a comparative triviality. Adultery ruins marriages. Yes, if I had a wife of child-bearing age and she wanted a baby I would insist that she have the child by someone else (one can be a competent and even high-achieving person if one has Asperger's syndrome, but the syndrome can make life miserable).
The Presidential bid of Donald Trump is the ultimate power trip. That horrible man has used power in disgusting ways before, getting fame for hollow achievements, getting media attention for mediocre entertainment, getting his surname plastered on big projects, and of course making one sexual conquest after another. His achievements in all those things are suspect. He would like to be as successful a businessman as Warren Buffett, but he isn't. He would like to be a great entertainer like Frank Sinatra or an impresario of such as Merv Griffin, but he isn't. He would like to satisfy women as did Porfirio Rubirosa, but he isn't. Now he wants to be the successor of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Franklin Roosevelt. Why should we expect better with Donald Trump as President?
Even his hypocritical choice of Governor Mike Pence has imploded even if Mike Pence has showed himself adequate as a running-mate for an arch-conservative Presidential nominee who espouses conservative Christian values in deed and word. (Ironically it is Barack Obama who seems the straight-laced prude in his personal life, even if he makes no theatrical displays of religious devotion. The only obvious breach was to accede to homosexual rights, which breach itself is itself an expression of high morality, as God obviously made some people homosexual).
Donald Trump is no exemplar of Christian morality. His god, his object of worship, is himself. Neither is he an exemplar of Jewish, Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, Shinto, Zoroastrian, or neo-pagan morality. Atheism or agnosticism? Atheists and agnostics at their best contemplate the necessary virtues and live them without need for any god. The political 'marriage of convenience' between him and Mike Pence imploded as Mike Pence could not defend Donald Trump's behavior. Like or dislike his politics, Mike Pence at least believes something -- but that is not the ego-worshiping megalomania of Donald Trump. Mike Pence defended himself well in his debate; as a conservative Christian he could not defend Donald Trump, a man whose business conduct, megalomania, gross dishonesty, abuse of women, and calls for violence are all inconsistent with any profession of Christian values. Mike Pence could have better defended Barack Obama than Donald Trump.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.