11-28-2016, 10:35 AM
(11-28-2016, 09:41 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:(11-28-2016, 07:03 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Hmm. Trump is now claiming to have won the popular vote, or he would have if not for voter fraud.
I'm used to politicians stretching truth during the campaign, though Trump seems to have taken it to new levels. There has been a need for fact checkers. As a president elect / president does he think he can govern through the same style of blatant lies he used during the campaign? Can he be "leader of the free world" when he has utterly destroyed his credibility?
Trump never had any credibility with you the left, anyway. The right recognizes that states like California, with no enforceable requirement for proof of citizenship in the registration or voting process, likely have many illegal immigrants voting, possibly in the millions given the ruling Democratic party's interest in having illegal aliens vote. The center also recognizes that Trump's claim here is far more credible than the claims on the left about mass hacking of voting machines by the Russian government.
Sure, and for good reason. He introduced racism that would have put the George Wallace campaign of 1968 to shame. He has suggested that violence on behalf of his cause is a good thing. He has vilified intellectuals, creative people, and science. He has even promoted religious bigotry. He has shown admiration for murderous dictators as "strong leaders"; I could understand Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher as strong leaders who at least respected human rights, due process, and pluralism and not ... Saddam Hussein? This would be unacceptable in a left-wing campaign.
Donald Trump is a sociopath and a demagogue, and you expect me to trust him as president of the United States? I look forward to the next four years of American politics much as I would look forward to a prison term.
There isn't much of a center-right in America anymore, but I question whether you can speak for it.
All that I can say of Donald Trump's America is that we can all work more with no increase in pay (or even a pay cut to Make America Great Again -- if only for the Master Class. Life will be worse for most people than at any time since the Great Depression, and if we should have a reprise of the 1929-1932 meltdown, things will be worse than that. Much of what I see in Donald trump comes from his choices of extremists and fanatics for every significant position in the political order.
Who knows? Maybe he will appoint a Supreme Court "Justice" who believes that an occasional lynching will make America safer from crime.
...I'd like to know what his campaign was doing while connected to a server in Moscow.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.