(12-02-2016, 05:31 PM)playwrite Wrote:(12-02-2016, 04:39 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:(12-02-2016, 03:16 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:(12-02-2016, 02:56 PM)Odin Wrote: The problem with your reasoning is that Clinton WAS the moderate.
The reason the left lost was because they thought Clinton was in any way moderate.
No, it's mostly because Clinton sucked in general as a candidate. Poor ability to connect (that's typically something hard wired into a person's brain, they either have it or they don't). Lots of baggage due to association with Slick Willie. Plus other issues (especially when compared with an obvious "knows how to energize and connect with the crowd" sales puke like Trump).
Now, speaking of polity and ideology, it was actually Clinton's perceived associations with corporate people, the Establishment, what have you - in other words, what revolutionaries and other radicals term "the oligarchy" - that also harmed her. In an election where it was all about crowds carrying pitchforks (figuratively speaking), someone as ordinary and milquetoast as Clinton had a serious headwind. Obviously she could not overcome it. It was anything but radicalism / New Left / Far Left ideology that did Clinton in.
Clinton's popular vote victory over Trump is approaching and likely to exceed 3 million, close if not exceeding the margin that Bush bested Kerry with. This wasn't a question of Clinton's popularity with a majority of voters; it's that very few outside of Trump could believe so many people in the midWest would let themselves become Trump Chumps. Trump knew because all grifters know their marks.
From street hustlers to billion dollar a year hedge fund managers, my city is stuff with shXtheads like Trump. We tried to warn the chumps but they were too caught up in their Clinton Hate Derangement Syndrome.
Some of the Chumps have started growing a brain -
The Trump Faithful Are Already Expressing Buyer's Remorse
- but too bad, so sad, it's too late.
With the coming devastation to their health coverage, many of them are literally going to die as a result of being Trump Chumps. Maybe now what they had in mind for their drain the swamp meme, ey?
A lot of that popular vote lead came from voters in California, and so was worth fuck-all because of the electoral college. We lost because of a few thousand voters in the rust belt. And why did we lose by a few thousand votes in the rust belt? Because Clinton could not shake off her past association with free trade deals.
Hopefully Keith Ellison can knock some sense into all the morons who didn't see this coming.
#MakeTheDemocratsGreatAgain