Presidential election, 2016

[Bob Butler 54]

(12-05-2016, 11:34 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(12-05-2016, 11:28 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(12-05-2016, 11:04 AM)Warren Dew Wrote: If you think billionaiires or even major movie stars wander around without bodyguards, you're seriously detached from reality.

Sure they do, but their bodyguards are an small fraction of all gun owners.  These few are not the driving force behind Second Amendment activism.

Do you even read the posts you respond to?  Those few are the driving force behind gutting the second amendment, not behind second amendment activism.  The elites are allowed their bodyguards even under the strictest of proposed gun control regimes; they just prefer no one else have the same privilege.

I do read your posts.  I just don't believe that when you say something without presenting evidence I should bow to your wisdom.  You aren't the Pope.  

I believe that the way democracies work, when the elites want something difficult, they have to awaken the interests of the much more numerous working classes to want the same thing.  Thus, a business oriented party would push the idea that what is good for business is good for the country.

Elites mustering the support of the more numerous classes doesn't always happen, isn't always necessary.  Sometimes campaign contributions will convince legislators to give special consideration without making any appeal to the voters.  

With the gun issue, I believe a heck of a lot more hunters, farmers, target shooters and folks concerned about personal security than there are billionaires and movie stars.  (Gilligan's Island would not be representative, with two billionaires and a movie star out of a population of seven.   )  On the flip side, there are a lot of folks who are sincerely displeased by an abundance of guns.  Playwright and Eric might stand as examples of the latter.  They care.  Deeply.  There are many like them.

I see this as a valid concern of many people, not an issue that can be settled in a smoke filled room.