Presidential election, 2016

[David Horn]

(12-30-2016, 08:30 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: Actually, people like Classic X and I merely realize there was no "death by denial of health care" going on, since ever since the 1980s, emergency room services could not be refused based on ability to pay.

This is in contrast to progressive systems like the British NHS, where the health care system had an explicit "liverpool care pathway" that involved purposely denying food and water to patients to hasten their passing.  That's  what the progressive value system actually leads to in practice.

So you think that a policy that benefits you by hurting others is OK if the others are healthcare providers or taxpayers.  Free healthcare is oxymoronic.  It costs money to provide even cursory care.  Worse, sending the less than seriously sick and injured to the ER raises healthcare costs for everyone.  There is no healthcare delivery system that is more expensive than the ER.  You do know that hospitals just off-load the cost on insured patients or get taxpayer subsidies, right? 

And the NHS is not starving people to death.  That's nonsense.  Actually, the NHS rated #1 in the world for healthcare outcomes in 2015.  The US has never been in the running, and cost is not part of the evaluation.  Once cost is added, the NHS REALLY looks good!