Presidential election, 2016

[Eric the Green]

(01-07-2017, 02:11 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(01-06-2017, 09:10 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I'm dubious.  Eric?  Your thoughts?

He seemed to take it as a compliment when I conjured it up and used it as an accurate describe him/his motives  earlier. You must have missed that personal exchange between the two of us.

I don't mind Classic Xer's description of me as a blue recruiter. It would be nice if I could convince more people to my point of view. Classic says he is taking folks like me on to "open up" the discussion; in other words, to oppose points of view like mine. That seems legit for a forum discussion, although it might suggest we are too stuck in our positions.

What I pointed out to Classic, and others did as well, is the error behind his use of the term "blue recruiter." Classic assumes in his statements that anyone who supports Democrats or liberals is dependent on them, and that's the only reason we support Democrats. This is not true, and it could be taken as a "vile stereotype." THAT'S where Classic goes off the rails. But it's not so much that it's a personal insult, as it just shows his condition of being brainwashed by the same old meme; the same trickle-down libertarian economics meme that says "taxes are theft for freeloaders"-- the same meme I have been debunking here for 20 years. The SAME OLD SLOGANS that have our country completely stifled and beholden to the top 1% most wealthy people in the country. Classic Xer is just a very typical "classic" example of someone hooked on those slogans. Galen is perhaps the MOST typical, and the most dogmatic and aggressive believer.

Classic Xer, Danilynn, Warren Dew, Galen, radind, (oh, I almost forgot our new "recruit," Bronsin), and almost all other conservatives who have ever posted here are locked up in this meme to varying degrees. They are just part of the 40-plus percent of Americans hooked on this ideology. This is not a stereotype; it's a fact of our political life today. 40-plus percent of the American people, including conservatives here, are beholden to this meme. The ones here are not singled out. My "blue recruiter" position is to point out this condition and debunk it; that's about all that this "vile steroetype" of me means.

Of course, if Classic really believes that being a "blue recruiter" implies that I am being directly "paid" to be one, that is obviously false, and is just another version of his attempt to dismiss those of us on the blue side (the true-blue side) as dependent on being paid in some way, whether through government handouts or direct compensation. Sorry Classic, but I don't think anyone here (apart from Galen, perhaps) believes such a pathetically-mistaken view. It's pathetic, and rather funny.

And if anyone were really paying me to write my views here on this forum, in the hopes that I could recruit more blues, they would likely demand that I give their money back to them, given my pathetic record of successful recruitment on this forum. And that's pretty funny too.

But, I also note the fact that there ARE many RED recruiters, especially those paid or beholden to oil and fossil fuel companies to spread the lies denying the harmful and deadly climate change which these fossil fools are directly causing. I don't know if it happens here, or that Classic is one (likely not), but it does happen on other larger forums like facebook, I think. And many others with Republican views depend on these politicians to keep their taxes and regulations low so they can continue to exploit the environment, workers and consumers in order to keep their profits up.

So, like they say about people in glass houses.