05-05-2017, 12:08 PM
(05-05-2017, 04:33 AM)Galen Wrote:(05-05-2017, 12:29 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(05-04-2017, 04:29 PM)Odin Wrote:(05-04-2017, 03:21 PM)Galen Wrote: Odd that you would complain about Trump doing this when this has always been the mantra of the Dims since everyone of their proposals seem to involve taking money from one group of people to pay the bills of other people.
Yes, I'm sure you and all you other sub-human Libertarian scum are orgasmic over the thought of people dying because they can't afford health care.
It's the same o same o meme from Galen and his pernicious type: the concept of social insurance never enters their heads.
Because they are so much more common in the USA than in other developed countries, our nation is stuck and cannot progress. They truly are the only reason for our regression.
You might contemplate how the fraternal societies and other social institutions actually functioned then you might realize that social insurance on a voluntary basis did actually exist at one time. Unfortunately you are simply too stupid to handle the concept of people working out how to solve their own problems.
I may be stupid, or the fact may be that people today cannot do this on a voluntary basis. People are not angels yet, so voluntary doesn't always work. There have to be laws until all people are angels. There has not been a time when we were yet, despite some small-scale activities somewhere. The mandate is fair because it assures that everyone contributes, and that the social insurance actually exists.
In the status quo, people did not get health care. And insurance companies were charging too much or denying coverage. So that's why Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act exist. Business itself pressured the government for ACA, in order to save itself from bankruptcy. The best way to see that everyone gets affordable coverage, is for everyone to participate and contribute what they can. Otherwise, only a few people get stuck with the bill for everyone. This was costing too much for businesses who insured their employees. The single payer system works best. The only problem with it, is that it violates the libertarian creed.