05-06-2017, 03:26 PM
(05-05-2017, 02:07 PM)The Wonkette Wrote:(05-05-2017, 04:30 AM)Galen Wrote:Perhaps you might contemplate how much lifespans have increased in the past century. Medical advances, vaccinations, municipal sanitation, and access to expensive, lifesaving medical procedures through insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid all played a part, I'm sure.(05-04-2017, 04:29 PM)Odin Wrote:(05-04-2017, 03:21 PM)Galen Wrote:(05-04-2017, 11:00 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: "Someone else will pay."
Odd that you would complain about Trump doing this when this has always been the mantra of the Dims since everyone of their proposals seem to involve taking money from one group of people to pay the bills of other people.
Yes, I'm sure you and all you other sub-human Libertarian scum are orgasmic over the thought of people dying because they can't afford health care.
Not really. You might want to investigate why medical costs are so high but then that would involve actually thinking. Thinking is too hard so I don't actually expect you to get around to doing it.
Perhaps an example of how the working class and poor dealt with health care before the government fixed it will demonstrate to you what really happened when the progressives and the AMA got their way in the early twentieth century.
You might spend some time contemplating how government increases the costs of medical care and everything else. You might also want to spend some time contemplating what government really is but I know that will never happen.
Some of the technologies of medicine are more expensive than the primitive means not available. Dialysis is not a cure, but it can extend life at great cost to the payer. Cancer treatment used to be far less expensive -- and much more futile. Psychiatric treatment that can turn losers into winners isn't cheap -- but had I gotten the treatment that I needed for my condition (Asperger's) when I was young I might be living a very different life and be a big net contributor to society instead of living on the mar4gin of poverty. I am not alone at that. AIDS may not be the sure, swift killer that it once was, but it is certainly expensive. Diabetes used to be a fast-acting death sentence that it no longer is. It is now a slow-acting death sentence.
Of course, people are living longer with chronic conditions, some of them self-inflicted. Alcoholism, obesity, drugs, and cancerweed are obvious mistakes. Some of the self-inflicted conditions can be extremely expensive.
But let's not forget poverty, something whose deleterious effects the Right trivializes because poverty allegedly spurs people to work harder for what little they will get.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.