05-23-2017, 11:08 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-23-2017, 11:09 AM by Eric the Green.)
(05-23-2017, 01:33 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(05-23-2017, 12:16 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: To me what I have said on this makes eminent sense. No need to rehash. As I have also said, it makes sense these days to compromise between rural and urban needs on this issue. The rural side is not interested in compromise, however. The red side is stuck in extremism on this and all other issues. The blue side is more flexible. That is also the weakness of the blue side.
So long as there is significant talk of true prohibition on the blue side, compromise isn't likely from the red.
I'm not sure the red guys are as firmly stuck as they have been. Trump has taken the unraveling memes way beyond the pale, and is doing so with remarkable chaos and dysfunction. His narcissism and lack of people skills won't make it easy for him to recover. The Republicans are split. It's too soon to say where things are going, but it doesn't look like the unraveling status quo is the best bet.
I find it far easier to comprehend the red base than you. For the most part I can follow you, but there are a few pieces of the puzzle that won't fall together for me.
The prohibition talk on the blue side applies to military weapons ("assault rifles, etc."). If this is the basis for their lack of compromise, then it has nothing to do with their interest in hunting or self-defense, but only in their interest in possessing weapons of mass murder, however they may justify it in their arguments.
A few are pealing off now from the Trump/GOP base. The GOP and Trump are wedded at the hip, but if he/they lose a small percentage over the long run, then the GOP will lose elections.
I could say I understand the red base better than you, because I am able to see through all of their delusions, not just most. That's how I would spin your statement into my favor. Don't get too dizzy.