Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil

[Ragnarök_62]

(07-21-2017, 11:43 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(07-21-2017, 04:22 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 12:43 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: #Impeach!

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-l...story.html

'Trump’s buyer’s remorse about Sessions wasn’t the only evidence in the interview of the president’s eccentric views about the rule of law. He suggested at one point that the FBI director reports directly to the president. (In fact, that official is part of the Justice Department chain of command, though as a member of the executive branch he is ultimately accountable to the president and, obviously, can be fired by the president.)'

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Here I try to break this down a bit.

Trump is half Kraut, and I have long wondered if his ancestors in the US were Hitler lovers during the past 4T. I also wonder how bought into English legal concepts he and his ancestors are / were.

Beyond that I am more and more convinced that Trump, if not a Duginist / Eurasianist himself, is certainly a puppet of such Anti Western Fiends. That alignment puts him in conflict with normal, traditional Anglo-American culture.

So to all you Borders, Language and Culture people, it really sucks that we have people who subscribe to thoroughly alien cultural concepts in the WH.

Uh, good borders make for good neighbors.   Global warming's gonna do a number on the US's carrying capacity, which means we can't fucking take care of the rest of the world. Charity begins at home.  Why can't some progressives see how messed up they are on stuff?  Look at Houston.  It's a sanctuary city, but oh, the hypocrisy.  Houston should put illegal aliens in jail and offer sanctuary to homeless folks.  They're 180 degrees off.  What a cabal of morons, those city officials.   Fuck you Houston. I hope the ACLU cleans y'all clocks.  The US, the land of fucked up priorities. US out of the Mideast. Let Russia have the place.  I don't care about the Mideast.  Let it just go up in flames. I also have no pity for employers who are now short of workers  Hey employers, raise wages and do stuff to make the work environment better.  You'll then get your employees.  If y'all want to rely on illegal labor and it's shut down, too bad. Just go out of business. I don't care and I won't miss y'all.   So , yeah, even a blind squirrel finds nuts at times. Trump's wall and shutting off illegal labor are good things™.  Oh, and aren't English legal concepts part of "culture"?

Get out of the mideast. Maybe good advice. But what occurs to me in reply to your statement is, well, flames have a tendency to spread. Sometimes fast.

Sanctuary cities are necessary as a response to illegal picking up of immigrants without cause and sending them back. The USA is a land of immigrants. Hypocrisy is blaming immigrants for our troubles. No, it's true our priorities are screwed, but that doesn't mean progressives are necessarily wrong about immigrants. The extreme Republicans and the Trump/Sessions xenophobic base have stopped bipartisan reforms for years supported by Republican and Democratic presidents alike which could have straightened out the mess. They are the ones worthy of the most concerted and loud attacks against them.

1. We more or less agree wrt Mideast, I think...

2.  Hmmmm..... Life lessons from poker needed here. - When playing a hand always consider that how you play this hand affects the other players. IOW, how you play this hand affects the future. So, it appears Eric and Rags are sitting at the virtual table.  So Eric mentions " bipartisan reforms for years supported by Republican and Democratic presidents alike which could have straightened out the mess..."  I think you want Path to Citizenship along with perhaps more folks on the waiting list coming in.  So now:

1. Are you OK with just letting the whole world in, with no checks whatsoever?  If so, have you considered some possible consequences.  If we let too many folks in, then wages would crash and we'd for sure become a 3rd world shithole and in the end nobody benefits. Have you considered that uncontrolled borders also let folks who have wormies and other pathogens to cross. Remember that prior immigrants to the US, you know those you speak of in the 20th century got health screenings?  Why should we risk public health to make some dumb ideological point? Now, the Trump side's objectives are also not grounded in reality.  First, you can't of course keep everyone out, nor discount that there are a batch of immigrants that do indeed do shitty jobs citizens won't do.  So have a plan, man. To play the cards right for the long term in this case requires in step by step manner.

1. Get control of the borders. We don't want a mess after we do:

2. Implement path to citizenship.  Spend the money, set up the processing centers, get the medical resources set up, then get the word out that citizenship sign up is available.  This is when you stop deporting except right at the border.

3. Have the new citizens take a seminar on employee/rights rights. They shall like everyone else and H-2 holders [should be] paid the minimum wage laws and offered the customary OSHA  protections. 

4. End this stupid war on drugs because it causes a lot of the push of folks to our border.  Mexico for example is a narco state because the US is too dumb to see its own part in the mess.  Also no more messing around in Latin America's internal affairs anymore by the US.


You see Eric, one has to do a deep data dive to get rational policies that emphasize logic over irrational emotionalism.
Laws/statutes made based on emotion are doomed to fail or disaster because any semblance to reality is utterly lacking.  Peace out.

Rags.


Wow, what an emoticon.  Neon is cool.