If The Russians Engineered a Trump Victory

[Bob Butler 54]

(08-15-2017, 10:14 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(08-15-2017, 12:01 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: The Alt right?  You can call them all sorts of names, but not un-American.  It's very traditional for those who have been here longer to try to lock out newcomers, and do so with hate and prejudice.  It's also very American, as you say, to fight this prejudice.  Equality is one of our stronger founding virtues.  I can strongly sympathize with the more rational among the alt right that affirmative action can be taken so far, but when a subculture reserves certain roles to certain privileged groups, the time for affirmative action is not past.

The less rational of them?  Well, they can deal with the less rational of the left.  Go all out wacko if you have to.  I'll sit back and wait for things to resolve as they have tended to resolve in the past.  The self proclaimed privileged scum generally lose in the end.  Alas, the arrow of progress flies absurdly slowly for an arrow.

If the theory is to hold, then a resolution must occur within a suitable timeframe.  Will it?  If we assume that the 4T started in 2008, then it followed a longer than normal 3T (unless you wish to move Reagan into the 2T).  In any case, the saeculum started at or very near the end of WW-II, so the mid-2020's would make it 80 years.  It seems that Trump will remain a distraction until 2020, so the resolution will have to be swift and decisive unless Trumpism is the resolution.  I'm doubting that strongly.

Since the fragmentation seems to be widening, and positions hardening, is that likely?  We have a economic and climate crisis to address in the interim, and the world isn't getting any less scary either.

I’m not sure the theory holds, at least not well enough that you can count on precise timing.  Is there a new group of elites seeking power that must tear down the structure older elites used?  Is there a problem that a large number of people say must be solved?  I’m inclined to think the economic and climate issues will eventually go critical, but thus far quite a few seem able to ignore these things.  A crisis scale effort at solutions is on hold as the unraveling attitudes of fat, dumb and happy continue.