Debate about Gun Control

[Classic-Xer]

(10-18-2017, 11:53 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(10-17-2017, 01:15 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I know the number of gun related deaths that occur in the south side of Chicago (Chicago is a Democratic stronghold) is probably higher (figuring off the top of my head) than entire state of Minnesota, Iowa, North and South Dakota combined. Minnesota doesn't have a major issue with gun violence despite its slightly above average grade pertaining to its gun laws. Minnesota has a few areas that have an issue with high levels of gun violence. The bulk of the states gun violence occurs in Minneapolis and St Paul (BTW, the Twin Cities are also Democratic strongholds).

Whoa!  Chicago sits as an island of gun control in the middle of a sea of wide-open gun sales.  Look at the laws in Wisconsin or even those outside Cook County in Illinois.  Guns don't just grow on trees.  As far as gun violence in Minnesota, I'm less knowledgeable about that, though I doubt you are actually citing statistics.

Look at the laws in Wisconsin and ask, why isn't there more deaths related to gun violence in Wisconsin than there is in the South Side of Chicago. I assume that the South Side of Chicago doesn't have as many people as the entire States of Wisconsin and Minnesota combined. You live in the middle of a sea of wide open gun laws, yet you don't feel the need to have one yourself or feel the need to move some place else. Why is that? You'd think that you'd be witnessing gun fights and ducking from bullets or being threatened at gun point by your crazy redneck neighbors and gun toting strangers all the time by your views and the way you talk. Now, the reality is that you're no more threatened by gun violence than me. So, what's up??? Are you unable to admit that because you're a blue? Are you looking for attention from blues or are trying rally more blues for support/the cause? You're biggest threat is being hit by a stray bullet during hunting season as you've said in the past. Me, my greatest threat is being caught in the middle of a gun fight in the wrong part of town at the wrong time. I tend to avoid the wrong parts of town so it isn't much of a concern.

Guns don't grow on tree's or live like the tree's do either. As a general rule, I don't view an object like a gun as something that has life of its own. A gun isn't going hurt you by itself. So, you want to get rid of people/exclude those from gun ownership who are prone to gun violence or have been involved with gun violence. Well, we already have federal laws on the books that are supposed to exclude them. As far as criminals, laws aren't going to stop them from getting them when there are other criminals and criminal networks to get them from. Hint. The ones who are doing the killing with guns in the South Side of Chicago aren't buying them from Wisconsin gun stores because they are available within the South Side of Chicago.