09-15-2018, 12:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-15-2018, 09:37 PM by Bob Butler 54.)
(09-15-2018, 09:59 AM)David Horn Wrote:(09-14-2018, 10:29 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:(09-14-2018, 08:50 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: You didn't see Barack resort to using the race card against the Clinton's and their supporters during the 2008 primary. Yes, capitalism can be cruel but socialism has shown us that it can be cruel too. Yes, some parts of America are racist. What you seem to understand is some of those parts are within blue America and the racists aren't the white one's the blues seem to be so worried about and always railing about as if there's 63 million of them or something stupid like that and so forth. Sounds like a good place for a mindless liberal like Eric to end up or a clueless liberal like you or Bob to wake up one morning find themselves stuck in the middle of for an extended period of time or a bunch of (profanity redacted) Democrats find themselves dealing a nasty crisis that's of their own creation that's largely occurring within blue territories.
Utterly incoherent. Take a break!
Translation from Rantish (offered as a public service): Blues are just as racist as Reds, but against whites and Christians. Blues deserve the fate their self-hate promotes.
There is just enough truth there to make the argument viable, but barely. Yes, there are racists of all races, and dissing Christians is pretty easy, given their own proclivities. This is why we are moving to the extremes. We are seeking safety in numbers, by allying with those who love what we love and hate what we hate. It's intellectually dishonest, but pretty much what's happening.
Good translation. Don't say that all blues don't listen.
I would say I have nothing against most Christians. I do oppose those who try to use the government to enforce a religious doctrine. I do believe in the separation of church and state. This is not a problem with most Christians. It is common among blues to leave Christians alone who leave them alone.
In the same way, fighting racism is not racism. Some blues oppose racism actively and blatantly. So long as that does not blind them to other problems, I'm fine with that.
Disliking these small red minorities or their actions does not make the blue unstable.
But why would Classic-Xer care if he doesn't feel as the racists and religious action by government people do? I have long thought reds use an extra degree of indirection when they are being socially unacceptable, being racist, or seeing to enforce religious doctrine. It sometimes makes one pause before letting them off the hook.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.