01-28-2019, 09:22 PM
(01-28-2019, 04:45 PM)David Horn Wrote: Do I differentiate between people? Yes, and that's true regardless of their net worth. People who attain a position of power over others can use that power for good or evil. Donald Trump has proven through his own actions that he firmly falls into the first category. He actually brags about screwing the contractors he has hired as a developer, the students that attended his faux university and even his close friends if they seem even vaguely a threat to him. I also put predatory capitalists like Carl Icahn in the same category. Some of the tech Billionaires are starting to look like they qualify too. It's all a matter of basic humanity, and too many powerful people simply lack that trait.Yes, the Democratic party has had many rich Presidents. Some were born rich like Kennedy ( the son of an outlaw/ bootlegger/Irish mafia type) and FDR ( the son of a wealthy American businessman/entrepreneur) and others were born poor and became rich after entering a career politics like Clinton and LBJ. BTW, the other Roosevelt was actually a Republican President so he doesn't count as Democratic.
FWIW, we've had rich Presidents in the past. Both Roosevelts and Jack Kennedy for example. Being rich is not disqualifying.
Classic-Xer Wrote:What did Michelle Obama do for a living? Was she a blue civil rights lawyer/activist like her hubby? Did she say anything bad or racist about white people in general or the country that she was lucky/fortunate enough to be born in? If she did, she deserved the scrutiny that she received for being stupid enough to believe the stupid crap that she was taught by liberals. What about their devil spawn (their daughters)? See anything bad, disgusting or demeaning pertaining to them. Yes, the Clinton's were involved in some shady business deals connected to the savings & loans crisis that occurred during the 80's. Lots of coincidental evidence but nothing strong enough to file charges and convict them. Do you think they were innocent or a couple of sharp lawyers who knew how to protect themselves and cover their tracks? Hey, Hilary broke a federal law & obstructed justice and got away with doing them too. I don't know how long we are going to continue functioning as a society with two sets of rules but I don't see it continuing much further. You must not be able see the system of hierarchy that clearly exists on the blue side that the entire American right are able to plainly see with their own eyes these days.
You'll be hard pressed to find dirt on the Obamas. All the accusations to date have been disproven. I agree that Hill and Bill are a bit shady, but the most serious accusations against them have also failed. Ken Starr tried for almost 7 years, and failed. BTW, what obstruction of justice do you think occurred?
Classic-Xer Wrote:As far as moral high horse, I've yet to meet a blue who didn't believe that they were mounted on a moral high horse. Hell, even the lying, conniving, low life piece of crap blues believe they're mounted on a moral high horse these days. Yes, there's a reckoning coming and when that day gets here the blues can expect the reds to not to lift a finger to save or spare any of them from the suffering and hardship they going to have to endure by themselves with no government to rely on for protection or necessities relating to survival.
I recommend not holding your breath on a massive Blue Comeuppance. More to the point, start working on excuses for Mafia Don, because his days really are numbered.
You'd be hard pressed to find an investigative reporter or a journalist who would be willing to stick their neck out and place their careers/future on the line to explore information relating to dirt or wrong doings by Obama and you'd be hard pressed to find a blue would be foolish or crazy enough to implicate Obama or his administration at the time. We know that he/his administration used the IRS inappropriately and we know that the FBI was used inappropriately as well. We know that the FBI directer made decisions that he didn't have the authority to make in regards to Hilary's case and we know she cleaned had her hard drive cleaned by a professional and we know she had her assistants destroy their government issued phones as well. How do we know this, it's all on record and it's all been collaborated by admittance of guilt. Even the Russian collusion thingy has more evidence of collusion between the DNC and Clinton Campaign and the Russians involving the Steele Dossier that was used as evidence by the FBI and the Department of Justice to obtain the FISA warrant to spy on the Trump Campaign and launch an investigation into collusion between the Trump Administration and the Russian government.