01-31-2019, 12:21 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-31-2019, 12:34 PM by Bill the Piper.)
(01-31-2019, 11:10 AM)David Horn Wrote:(01-31-2019, 05:20 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:(01-30-2019, 11:56 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I'm anti Communist/Marxist but I'm not a Evangelical Fundamentalist by any stretch of the imagination. I don't have interest in saving your sole from damnation or an interest in keeping you from straying off the righteous path. Marxism belief still exists in America. We're seeing it and we are hearing it as it being promoted by the Democrats again. I doubt Kamala lives like a socialist but she seems to understand the value of it to those she needs to have the support of in order to remain in office and advance her political career/ambitions.
Is Kamala promoting the concept of class struggle? If not, she's not a Marxist - full stop.
Good point, but not one that will be heard. C-Xer has a Fox Network view of Communism -- one that seems to ignore Vladimir Putin while encapsulating Democrats to the right of his mythical centerline. I try to argue specifics with him for that reason. Is it OK for poor people to starve rather than tax the rich, for instance. That isn't truly successful either, but he rarely fully embraces cruelty as a preferred option.
Putin is absolutely not a Marxist. He is a Russian nationalist and a supporter of Christian values which for him mean being against Chechen "terrorists", feminists and gays. I like to call it "locker room Christianity" (I saw such people on personality cafe), according to these types having gay sex once takes you to hell, but sleeping with 508 women a year just means you are a real man and Jesus is proud of you
. Putin even praised the former Israeli PM for raping a woman! If I had to name Putin's political orientation, I'd call him a neoreactionary, or if you want to be more precise in his case that means Stalinism without the class struggle. Stalin's methods of control and views on culture and ethnicity are retained, but the economic system is not. There also is a "techno-libertarian" variety of neoreaction, focused more on worshipping the free market and condemning the majority of our species for not wanting it. They also like Putin for his tough stance on cultural leftists and Muslims.