07-11-2016, 08:05 AM
(07-09-2016, 05:40 AM)taramarie Wrote:(07-09-2016, 05:12 AM)Galen Wrote:(07-09-2016, 04:15 AM)taramarie Wrote:(07-09-2016, 04:05 AM)Galen Wrote:(07-09-2016, 03:48 AM)taramarie Wrote: That happens with pretty much everything. Ban something and they will find a way to get it. Government edicts can only go so far. My great-grandmother pointed that out to me when I was a kid. She also called the police crooks which is a major condemnation coming from a Victorian era women who didn't use obscenities. Which tells you how long this sort of crap has been going on. The cell phone camera and YouTube just make it so obvious that it is hard to ignore.
Agreed. I take it your great grandmother was a lost generation member? She sounds like she had a wise head on her shoulders. Yes I made the comparison to alcohol prohibition but the kiwi knows squat apparently.
Yes, she was Lost. Even by my time there were not very many of them left. The Boomers ignored them but you have no idea how much trouble she saved me from. Twenty-three years dead and she is still worth listening to and I can't say that about many of the living.
The kiwi is telling them that their Utopia is not possible which is something they can't handle. So they decide to ignore reality. Consider the following quote:
The Guide is definitive. Reality is frequently inaccurate.
- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams
This is the mentality you are dealing with.
Yes it is impossible to talk to people who put idealism over reality. I am for idealism.....if it is DOABLE. If not it is a complete waste of time and money. They also have to consider that in some places the culture is different. Here in NZ for instance sure we have guns and we have murders. We have a black market (particularly in weed as it is still not legal here) but we do have a different outlook when it comes to guns. Think of my reaction when i saw people carrying them around with them in SA. People there were ok with it. They thought it made them safe. But in my own country it is viewed in the opposite way. Someone carrying one would be viewed as dangerous. People go ape shit and go into lock down if they see a person marching in somewhere with one (which is illegal). Culturally we are way more sensitive to seeing a firearm on someone and view it quite differently (due to our laws) than America which has a very different history connected with guns and their 2nd Amendment right. It won them their independence from the British and the Nazi threat for instance and is their 2nd Amendment right. It is viewed as a problem solver and security. Here, security for some but mainly a sign of danger. Our laws could be created due to a different history, culture and mindset. Over in America....I highly doubt it. As some Americans tell me....."over my dead body they will. They will have to pry it from my cold dead hands before I hand it over." Now for tighter regulations that even gets them jumping up and down. I would like to know what kind of regulations they are considering. As a non American I do not hear of everything so I have only heard about tighter regulations but that is it. For a country that demands its freedom especially when it comes to free speech and guns forgive me if i am skeptical about the work-ability of such laws without someone making big in the black market!
Gee, I thought with the ban on grenade launchers, we would have achieved utopia.
No one seems to be using grenade launchers for mass killings. I guess I should be happy. But instead I'm so disappointed that utopia didn't fall from the sky.