02-08-2020, 02:39 PM
(02-08-2020, 09:26 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(02-07-2020, 10:54 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote: Yes, Antifa is a violent group. I think the term, terrorist applies. Terrorism - the use of violence to achieve a political aim.
This definition is what I use to assign any group or individual. And of course the term applies to any right wing groups who do this crap as well.
That is a fair definition. The quibble is that the Neo Nazi, KKK and Antifa are not into lethal or large scale violence. Fistfights and scuffles with other violent protesters I can live with. I am over 65 and handicapped. I assume I will be forgiven for not participating. As one who has trained in the martial arts, I was sort of disqualified anyway. It is certainly a young person’s game.
But the above organizations as they currently act do not compare with what the Middle Eastern organizations have done recently, or McVeigh, or what Hitler’s Nazi and Stalin’s communists did. It cheapens the word terrorist a little.
But let me try another definition. A racist harasses minorities or supports other organizations that harass minorities. By this definition, a person who does not at least renounce the KKK and Neo Nazi would be racist.
It is sort of a litmus test. It is hard to tell the racists in the middle of the country from those who favor small government and low taxes for economic reason. Calling someone short viewed or ignoring the collapses of the economic system after a few years of Republican voodoo economic policies does not quite have the same cachet as supporting racism does. One way to tell is support for those who do go out and actively harass minorities. For that reason, I would consider it impolite to be absolutely neutral in the three sorta terrorist group case. You have to make at least a token objection to continuing the history of harassment, which is past its peak but was persistent during the slaver and Jim Crow years. That tradition needs to be sat on.
I'm thinking of how say Antifa and the KKK now use social media to coordinate activities. Violence, regardless of source must be denounced wholly. I don't really care for some sort of cause to promote violence or justify being soft on one sort and not equally as forceful on some other. IOW, violence is one of Rag's red lines. We all, I suppose have them, so there's that. It is also for that reason I've despised US foreign policy. I'm beginning to think all those wars of choice were not fought to "promote democracy", but upon reflecting things, that's all been a lie to cover up that our foreign policy is to wrest resources owned by others for our own gain. As for the voodoo stuff, yup. I also see that it's time is coming to an end. The upcoming destruction of globalism will see to that. We will not get the future we ordered because karma will see to that.
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