Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can!

[Classic-Xer]

(02-07-2020, 05:20 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(02-07-2020, 02:51 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Yep. I felt bad about the daycare kids who died in Oklahoma and I felt bad about the kids who burned to death in Waco and I felt bad about the innocent mother and the kid who died at Ruby Ridge too. Evidently, McViegh didn't think the liberal media and the leaders of our primarily  left wing progressive government at the time had paid enough attention to lives of innocent people and decided to do something bigger to wake them up and bring them back down to earth so to speak. The dude was a cold blooded murderer who was caught, convicted by an American court and rightfully executed as a terrorist.

Nitpick.  While OKC occurred during the early Clinton years, McVeigh was in part motivated by things that happened in the prior Bush 41 administration.  Regardless, the second thoughts happened.  The reverse of the at the time aggressive law enforcement practices was overdue.  That doesn’t prevent me from agreeing with your feelings towards McViegh.

Rudy Ridge occurred just before Clinton took office. Waco and OKC occurred while Clinton was in office at a time when the Fed's were viewed by most as being to aggressive. Waco was mishandled and dragging out for to long and becoming an embarrassment to higher ups. I was actually threatened by some lady working for the IRS at the time. They didn't receive a payroll tax payment on time that had been mailed a few weeks before it was due. I'm sorry but I had no control over the US Postal Service. She called me a liar and accused me of not sending it and threatened me with all kinds of legal actions. You don't call me a liar. I contacted them about the notice that I had received from them about a late payment penalty fee that I owed for a tax payment that they should have received a week before it was due. I told her that she couldn't threaten me like that or do what she claimed she would do and she told me that she could because due process didn't apply to tax collection which I thought was wrong because I mailed the god damn thing myself. So, I asked her at what point did this country become a communist country. She didn't like that response but it woke her up and made her start questioning the serious position she had taken with me and forced he into thinking she back it down with me and check into it further because if was there someplace like I had suggested to her and postmarked well in advance as I expected it would be then she was wrong and guilty of falsely accusing and threatening an innocent US Taxpayer who her government job relied on and was directly associated with who had demonstrated to her that they had enough clout to directly challenge her and not back down. My official complaint which would have included her name would have been filed with the millions of other official complaints that were being filed in district courts all over the country at the time.

Bill Clinton hit the nail on the head when he notified those on the left during a State of the Union Address after the Republicans took the House for the first time in over a hundred years that the era of big government was over. You guys should have taken that to heart and began to adjust expectations vs clinging to hopes for major crisis's to occur that would rekindle and revive it and continuing to support adding more responsibilities on top of existing responsibilities and adding more problems related to people than progressive systems and government institutions can handle for to many years.