(09-04-2016, 02:46 AM)taramarie Wrote:Here in the US they were much more self-centered they were simply trying to save their own asses. The rest of the time they were trying to find themselves by getting stoned, laid and listening to rock and roll. Boomers like Bob have been spending decades trying to convince anyone who will listen that Boomers were not a disaster. Nobody ever see themselves as a villain, its what gets them through the day.(09-04-2016, 02:07 AM)Galen Wrote:I have to appreciate the rights they gave to those who had less rights. Like for us women for instance. Some may have been stoned but they must have been fighting for equality and won. They were here in NZ anyway.(09-04-2016, 01:19 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(09-04-2016, 12:19 AM)Galen Wrote:(09-04-2016, 12:13 AM)taramarie Wrote: were they all really like him? that is a frightening thought. I am glad our kiwi boomers have more sense.
Yes, for the most part, and it never really ended. What happened is that once the question of their fighting in the Vietnam war to their satisfaction and defeated the hated Nixon they then took the rest of the decade off in a cocaine fueled bout of hedonism. By 1982 they all got religion and half of them went back to Christianity. It was the perfect set up for the Culture Wars and the current situation.
Galen and Eric tend to indulge in what I call 'vile stereotypes'. They have spliced together the worst aspects of members of their opposite cultures into ugly caricatures, and will try to sell their venom as if it represents the culture of their political rivals. They are highly partisan and as such are making no attempt to understand or sympathize with people who disagree with them.
There is a couple of things that you are forgetting. One is that I don't really do red or blue and both teams tend to embody the worst of the Boomers. While their objectives may be different the means often tend to be the same.
(09-04-2016, 01:19 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: The awakening was a brief though glorious dream time. Eric is in some ways an echo of it. Not a total echo. Most blue boomers aren't into astrology or mysticism. Eric has become something of a hawk of late, which is not representative of the old anti-war hippies. Most blue boomers did grow out of the awakening mood, and got into wives, family, jobs and (shudder) disco. They in time outgrew the disco as well. As much as anyone on this forum, though, Eric might give you some impression of hippie culture. I'm a blue boomer too, though. Not all blue boomers are totally alike. Beware vile stereotypes. Don't judge the United States as a scrambled collection of hateful partisan propaganda.
Eric the Obtuse is not merely an echo but rather still acts as if its 1968. If he were living in Oregon he would have moved to Eugene which is where all the hippies went, this process started about 1985. In the present Eugene seems to be populated by militant vegans. A friend of mine was working at HP when one of them complained to her about eating a hamburger during a meeting. In typical Xer fashion she started eating hamburgers at this vegan. Militant vegans are the only people on Earth it is possible to eat a hamburger at.
Here is one thing you need to know about politics: Seventy percent of the population doesn't really matter because they are just picking the lesser of evils. The remaining thirty percent are the ones that do matter because they are busy lining up the rest who do about as much thinking as a herd of cattle. This is the crowd that tends to embody the worst of any population because they are doing even less thinking than the herd is.
Bob is looking back on the Awakening as a good time because for most of the Boomers it was. They were simply too blitzed out or self-absorbed to notice much of anything. The rest of us really didn't enjoy the experience.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises