09-13-2016, 01:34 PM
(09-13-2016, 11:17 AM)The Wonkette Wrote:(09-07-2016, 12:17 AM)Galen Wrote:(09-06-2016, 03:18 PM)Odin Wrote:(09-04-2016, 07:47 PM)Galen Wrote:(09-04-2016, 05:21 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: You are trafficking in stereotypes again.
1. People can be priced into a vegan diet. It is safer and less expensive, and probably healthier. I'm from a farm family, and at my age going vegetarian would be almost as much a denial of the family culture as getting involved in an interracial marriage.
2. People are not voting for the 'lesser evil'; a very bad nominee like George McGovern got 37.52% of the popular vote in 1972. 36.54% of the electorate voted for Alf Landon against the FDR steamroller in 1936. I'm not saying that either was a really bad politician; it's just that everything went wrong with them as campaigners. Do you really want to say that people who voted for Landon or McGovern were parts of the herd?
You are likely to find demographics (college-educated people in 1936 for Landon, blacks in 1972 for McGovern) who 'voted wrong'.
3. The Boom Awakening may have been the optimal time for me to be a teenager. Even my authoritarian parents had to lighten up a bit.
I have encountered plenty of militant vegans myself in the People's Republic of Portland and they behave in much the same way out of the same sense of outraged moral superiority. There just seem to be more of them in Eugene. Ironically, one group that often goes vegetarian and does not generally behave this way are the Seventh-Day Adventists.
Given the rather limited choices, in reality they are voting for the lesser of evils. Clearly there is some disagreement on what lesser evil might actually be. In the end the herd tends to either vote for one of the major parties and refuse in general to consider any other possibility. When I ask people about that they invariably tell me that they don't want to vote for someone who can't possibly win. Sounds like herd behavior to me.
As I said before, it may have been good for you but it tended to suck for anybody else. The usual self-absorbed behavior I have come to expect from Boomers in general.
The militant Vegan wackos are of all generations, and most Vegans actually hate the wackos.
I have yet to meet anything other than a militant Vegan. They seem to have the same self-righteous attitude the bicyclists have around here.
That's probably because the non-militant Vegans quietly eat their tofu and don't bother anyone. I like that attitude.
Good one.
As in practically all other things it is the in-your-face militant who draw attention to their cause and do it harm.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.