12-10-2016, 01:07 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-10-2016, 03:07 PM by Eric the Green.)
Ralph Nader talks about Trump's election with Thom Hartmann, and why it happened and what can be done.
It's interesting that he says that Trump won because of the cultural resentment against political correctness, which Trump constantly harped on. And I as a California lefty think I need to speak politically correctly so as not to offend women and blacks and Mexicans and atheists and people of non-Christian religions, and yet if we do that, Nader says, we offend the white male Christians who want to preserve their authoritarian culture, who object to things like saying "Happy holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas," and silly concerns like that. And on that basis, we Americans vote to condemn the life of our planet. I guess it's what people choose as their priorities, huh? As a mainly rational kind of person, slightly more T than F on Myers-Briggs, hard as it is to admit for some people here about me, it makes no sense to me that people vote on the basis of resentment that our culture is changing because we have to talk in ways that don't offend people different from us. And "this is our last chance" to save the white male Christian culture, Trump said, in one of his most clever phrases that mobilized his people to vote.
And people said they "wanted change," and cannot conceive that the only "change" that we needed was to throw out the Republican congress that was holding back change. And Nader says the heartland people were "mocked" by Hollywood, and I don't know what he's talking about. Certainly when I watch TV, though, I never see or hear much hint of the traditional heartland culture, and it could be called "neglect" as Nader says. They all talk like the people on the coasts in the media. The commercial TV and movie culture that the billionaire media moguls on the coasts produce is trashy and just as bad, but it's true that there's not much of the other culture there, unless you watch reruns of Andy Griffith or something.
It's interesting that he says that Trump won because of the cultural resentment against political correctness, which Trump constantly harped on. And I as a California lefty think I need to speak politically correctly so as not to offend women and blacks and Mexicans and atheists and people of non-Christian religions, and yet if we do that, Nader says, we offend the white male Christians who want to preserve their authoritarian culture, who object to things like saying "Happy holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas," and silly concerns like that. And on that basis, we Americans vote to condemn the life of our planet. I guess it's what people choose as their priorities, huh? As a mainly rational kind of person, slightly more T than F on Myers-Briggs, hard as it is to admit for some people here about me, it makes no sense to me that people vote on the basis of resentment that our culture is changing because we have to talk in ways that don't offend people different from us. And "this is our last chance" to save the white male Christian culture, Trump said, in one of his most clever phrases that mobilized his people to vote.
And people said they "wanted change," and cannot conceive that the only "change" that we needed was to throw out the Republican congress that was holding back change. And Nader says the heartland people were "mocked" by Hollywood, and I don't know what he's talking about. Certainly when I watch TV, though, I never see or hear much hint of the traditional heartland culture, and it could be called "neglect" as Nader says. They all talk like the people on the coasts in the media. The commercial TV and movie culture that the billionaire media moguls on the coasts produce is trashy and just as bad, but it's true that there's not much of the other culture there, unless you watch reruns of Andy Griffith or something.