Debate about Gun Control

[David Horn]

(05-22-2017, 01:12 AM)Galen Wrote: Self defense happens all the time.  For the most part the intended victim displays a firearm and the predator goes off and finds an easier mark.

I've heard the self defense claim many times, but there is no evidence to back it up.  It's all anecdotal, and typically long after the fact.  We purposely fail to keep records on the subject of guns, so color me unconvinced.

Galen Wrote:The language of the second amendment is clear, you just don't like what it has to say.  The framers of the Constitution believed that power flowed from the bottom up and so the population must remain armed to make sure that it stayed that way.  You believe power flows from the top down in order to make those of us you regard as less enlightened behave as you believe they should.  In this respect you are no different than any other religious zealot.

The framers believed that they lived on the edge of a wilderness and had no standing army -- by choice.  That left military protection in the hands of the people, and only that.  Warping the 2nd to mean something else does not make it so ... even with the consent of the SCOTUS.