Debate about Gun Control

[David Horn]

(10-19-2017, 05:24 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(10-19-2017, 03:16 PM)David Horn Wrote: I planned to leave this alone, but yours is the second post in a row to make the futility argument.  Really?  We've had a chance to limit the number of guns in circulation for decades, but ignored the problem until it's gotten us here.  We can continue to ignore the problem until something more dramatic than Las Vegas occurs and the public says, ENOUGH!  It just makes it a bigger problem, not a non-issue.  Would you be OK with an epidemic of any other kind?  Eventually, it will become a pandemic ... potentially a nation-ending one.

If you want to limit the number of guns in circulation, you crack down on illegal gun sales and destroy the guns that are seized. The cartels/gangs aren't buying their guns from Cabela's or Joe Blows Gun Shop located in Indiana. It ain't like the old days. You haven't bought a gun. You have no clue about the process of buying a gun these days. I can buy a gun. I can buy any gun. I can get a license to carry a hand gun. Why? I've already passed a back ground check several times.

A great first step would be a requirement that all gun sales require a background check ... all of them. If I sell you a gun and you kill someone, then that falls to me if I skipped that step. More to the point, we need to know who has guns, so a registration regime is needed too. Handling this in the same way we handle drivers and motor vehicles would solve both problems: license 'users', title and register the weapons. There is no misinterpretation of the 2nd Amendment that would stop either of those from happening.

Classic-Xer Wrote:America said ENOUGH! to terrorism, but that didn't stop it from happening here or stop Muslims from coming here. Think terrorism, think about your view of terrorism vs mine and compare your view of gun violence to mine. Similar? Similar but opposite views pertaining to different issues. I own a gun. I know how to use a gun. I'm pretty good with a gun. A spree shooter in my area would find himself matched up against a gun owner who has the skills to kill them or a formidable presence who could draw their attention away from shooting up a neighborhood and keep them occupied until the police arrive. Now, if you want to continue blaming guns for violence, continue attacking people like me for owning them while ignoring the people who are the problem, that's fine.

Oh really? First you hammer away at the anti-immigrant memes, then you claim that private firepower can save the day. I assume you have no experience with this at all. Go ask a combat vet whether your plan has a snowball's chance in hell of actually working. FWIW, once the shooting starts, it's the definition of chaos. Combat units train to work past that, and have tactical tools to make that possible. Even then, they have death-by-friendly-fire incidents on a regular basis. I doubt you and your amateur gunners will do 10% as well.

I grew-up and currently live in an area where hunting is common. If you want to hunt, get a license, follow the rules and go at it. My next door neighbor is a taxidermist who will be glad to handle the rest. Just don't tell me that you are acting in my defense or even just your own. Once you do that, I'm at risk and so are members of my family and friends.