Presidential election, 2016

[Kinser79]

(11-12-2016, 08:38 PM)Odin Wrote:

(11-12-2016, 04:31 PM)taramarie Wrote: It does amaze me that the older folk on this forum are the ones who are acting like children. The older folk!

The lunatics (Boomers and Xers) are running the asylum...

The Boomers have been running the asylum for a long time, and for the most part they are lunatics. Xers are just now starting to flex their political muscle and a better order will arise from it.

(11-12-2016, 08:49 PM)Odin Wrote:

(11-12-2016, 03:44 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: I garuntee that if a black woman was locking out a white male room mate and posted about it on line no one would have said anything about racism.  The simple fact of the matter is that all the authoritarianism is coming from one side of the divide these days.  I've said before that the SJWs are the neo-puritans.  That is exactly what they act like.  This of course leaves the right free to scoop up all the cultural libertarians, which is the norm for Americans.

As for more militancy from the SJW types, I hope they increase it.  Their protests, rioting and tantrum throwing are proving to one and all that voting in Trump was the right course of action.  

As for Eric-the-ignoramus' predictions, he has a habit of being consistently wrong (probably because he's clueless) so take what he says, assume the opposite happens and you'll be safe 90% of the time.

I know a bunch of working class Trump supporters and not a single one is angry about "SJWs", and I doubt any of them have even heard of the term. You Alt-Righters are the mirror image of the "SJWs", obsessed with identity issues that are mostly meaningless to blue collar heartland folk whose main concern is jobs. They voted for Trump because they are desperate and Trump promised them their jobs back. It's all BS of course, automation means that those jobs aren't coming back, but desperate people are easy prey for demagogues.

I guess I should consider myself honored to like Milo have someone trying to crown me Queen of the Alt-Right. I'm a Civic Nationalist Odin, which is a political trend in the US that has deep roots, as does the Cultural Libertarianism and Classical Liberalism that informs that Civic Nationalism.

That being said, the Alt-Right does have some very important things to say. Primarily that identity > culture > politics. And Diversity + Proximity = war. Both are more or less in accord with the nature humans have as we can understand it.

As for automation, it has happened before, it has been happening since the Black Death swept through Europe. The goal is not to bring back old jobs--many of them are gone, never to return much like a buggy whip industry that isn't anything more than a boutique specialist craft. What we can do, however, is create economic incentives to create new jobs here in the US. Part of that is by sane trade policy, the rest is economic incentive.

Further since at least part of the economic mess we are in is due to aggregate demand, there is an other method for increasing it besides spending on sorely needed infrastructure. That method is lowering the supply of labor. If the supply of labor, particularly unskilled labor is supressed the price for it must as a consequence rise.

Finally, while the benefits of free trade intra-nationally are apparent, the benefits of inter-national free trade are dubious at best.