Presidential election, 2016

[Classic-Xer]

(11-23-2016, 01:50 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(11-23-2016, 02:08 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(11-22-2016, 03:50 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(11-16-2016, 07:32 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Trickle-in electionomics:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...rue#gid=19

Hillary leads Trump by about 1,200,000 and still counting.

Now her lead is over 1,700,000, and projected by google to be 2,400,000

Who cares, she already lost the most important election during my adult life.

Donald J Trump is the president-elect. Your guns are safe, and money still rules the life of politicians in office.

However, Trump did not get a mandate. And no-one can say that Hillary Rodham Clinton lost the election when she got 2 and half million more votes than Trump.

The Republican hold on the Bible Belt and (for now) the Rust Belt gives them the power, in congress, the statehouses, and potentially the electoral vote (but not the popular vote). Unless younger generations can shake off the fundamentalist memes (both religious and economic-free market fundamentalism), and unless the Rust Belt states return to the blue fold completely, then I predict a national break-up (or at least a looser confederation) may be the only way to bust through this fundamentalist power bloc, perhaps even if only temporarily for a few years so that the constitution can (possibly) be redone to get rid of the advantage which red states have in the electoral college and the Senate, as the price of reunifying the country.

Right now, some younger people are escaping the Bible/Rust Belt by moving to California and other blue states, while some conservative whites have moved out due to the increasing diversity and cost of living there. But this has concentrated the vote of up-to-date and/or diverse people in the states with fewer electoral votes.

More of CA is in, and the margin has now passed 2 million. The percentages in CA are widening too.

So she won the popular vote by a few million Californian's, good for her. She's fortunate that people like you didn't cling their values and voted for her instead Jill Stein or she would've lost the popular vote too.

I'm not going to fight to keep California as part of the United States. To me, California wouldn't be worth the sacrifice. America would get the bulk of its business's and the bulk of the productive workforce and the bulk it's more law abiding and more productive citizens and the bulk of it's agricultural exports that we're used to seeing as well regardless of whether it stays or goes. In my opinion, America needs a blue dumping ground. An alternate world for those who don't want to do shit for a living and uppity fools who feel they're obligated to support them, educated dim wits who ignore major issues relating to the working class who care more about establishing a new precedence and relatively dumb (uneducated) immigrants who are used to working for pennies to flood to by the millions instead of the United States.  

Right now, there's a decent black guy and his family living in my parents house. I'm cool with it and I have no issues with him as a person. Hell, I place more value on him than I place on someone like you. I know that goes against the blue narrative used here. But then again, the blue narrative isn't interested in what's actually going on, what it's actually about or what it actually means and so forth. The blue narrative is only interested in what it seeks to obtain or gain for itself. OK. We know what we've got, we've got two blue regions fixated on itself politically with a blue city located in between them. Minnesota may not stay blue for very long with my age group coming into power and becoming more vocal and more active politically. We could begin to move to separate from the blue cities which would isolate the cities and force the cities to become wiser and less reliant upon the state.