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[Bob Butler 54]

(09-13-2020, 01:19 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: I don't know why you guys keep asking me this question.  Yes, right-wing thugs should go to jail just like left-wing thugs.

Should antifa-blm thugs who commit crimes be arrested, tried and jailed?

We seem to agree that people repeat the question a lot.  The answer was in the last post.

(09-13-2020, 12:09 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: And yes, everybody who commits crimes ought to be arrested, tried and jailed.  The only possible exception is that the sitting president may consider himself above the law.

The border is not the people who will throw the first punch.  These ought to be arrested, tried and jailed.  The border is those that are eager to return the second punch, or those that will see a knife and shoot the wielder.  In theory the founding fathers enabled vigilante justice.  All men could carry arms and were enabled to enforce the law as they see it.  I can sympathize with this in many ways, but those who go into harms way with intent not to start violence but instead finish it are a problem.  I would rather they stay home, even if it means protestors exercising their right to protest are left undefended against red violent instigators.

The difference is that I think everyone should, not just a particular few.  The focus should be on those with an aggressive attitude towards defense.  Those that are performing the second violent act and the last violent act should bear extra scrutiny.

But there is also the difference between the red violent groups, Antifa, Black Lives Matter, the looters, etc...  You are one of many red commenters who muddles the various motivations together.  Black Lives Matter are one of the few groups that are not thugs.  Most of the other groups, including those who take orders from the president, are effectively thugs.  They are instigating or implementing violence.  By limiting the question you are cooking in a question of guilt.  I would rather answer in a non pejorative way.

I would also argue the crimes associated with thuggery are state crimes, the immunity given the Commander in Chief does not apply, and he should be arrested, tried and jailed too.  It seems easier to wait a few months.