11-09-2020, 03:31 PM
(11-09-2020, 03:21 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(11-09-2020, 11:00 AM)David Horn Wrote: A libertarian solution is never going to work. On a fiscal level, it's rule by oligarch, instead of government. On a social level, it's only feasible in a world where religion can be set aside (maybe some day, but not now), and where your freedom doesn't imperil me and mine (which is the essence of the gun issue in cities). Those are irreconcilable for now -- maybe forever in a complex nation like ours.You just supported rule by oligarch. I assume you weren't paying attention or assume that you were unable able to figure that out? I guess we'll get to see if the blue oligarchs are any better than the blue politicians as far as ruling blue America these days. I think you guys did a wonderful job screwing yourselves this time around.
I think we've elected trauma as our motivator, since neither side can accept the legitimacy of the other. The GD-WWII cycle created group cohesion; it's the one case where we achieved it. Even the ACW, with all the devastation and misery, left the adversaries in place and still in opposition. Our sclerotic governmental structure is certainly part of it too. But, so far, we're not making much progress, nor have we identified a viable alternative. We can't be Canada; we can't be Sweden.
This site seems to have gotten addicted to extremists, obstructionist and confrontation. If you really want to continue the unravelling pattern of trying to tell another culture how to live, you are part of the problem.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.
