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It's in the "stars" (predicting by astrology and other means)
(02-02-2017, 03:53 PM)Marypoza Wrote:
(02-02-2017, 03:43 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(02-02-2017, 02:52 PM)Marypoza Wrote:
(02-02-2017, 02:19 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I have lost track for now of my source for copying charts, so this image will dissappear soon. This, like McAuliffe's chart, is for 12 Noon; the Ascendant is unknown and the Moon's aspects are tentative and inaccurate.
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?&nhor...1486063119

I have scored it 19-8 pending more info on his birth time.

He has some great aspects, like a sextile of Jupiter and Uranus aligned with his Sun opposing Jupiter and trine Uranus. These are all worth points in my score. Venus makes powerful trines and sextiles to a Saturn-Neptune conjunction and to Pluto-Moon. He gets some positive points out of those too. Saturn conj. Neptune is notable for occurring in the charts of Lincoln, FDR and Kennedy. As such it can indicate both greatness and fatal destiny. If he's elected in 2020 that would be something to watch and be careful about. Others who had this conjunction include John Edwards, who is about the same age as Sherrod. A Moon-Mercury trine gives him the ability to use the media well.

He has some unfavorable aspects as well, amounting to 8 points in my current estimate. These can signify that he can have some rough times or get pretty rough himself: Mars sq. Saturn and Saturn sextile Pluto. Mars opposite Uranus can be reckless or radical, as in Howard Dean's case, but (as with McAuliffe's square as well) does not appear to have an unfavorable effect on candidates' chances overall. Jupiter square Pluto also adds a reckless element to his personality that is quite unfavorable, but the Moon square to Jupiter that comes along with it is very favorable. Moon square or opposite Jupiter makes a candidate's generosity and optimism quite active, accessible and easily expressed, as we saw in the case of Ronald Reagan among others.

-- yeah his Moon conjunct Pluto & Saturn conjunct Uranus stabilizes the upredictability of the Jupiter/Uranus sextile. At any rate we are happy with him as Sen. His Sun is conjunct the MC, which can indicate bigger & better things careerwise as well.

So far he doesn't appear to be positioning himself for a 2020 run like Tulsi & Liz are. But we still have a couple yrs to go so we'll see

We don't know yet if his Sun is conjunct the MC; this is just a 12 Noon chart which we cast for people for whom we have no birth time. Of course, every such chart shows the Sun conj. the MC!

Brown has Saturn conj. Neptune, not Uranus. Jupiter sextile Uranus is quite favorable. Jupiter square Pluto can be unstable. Pluto shows up very powerfully in all my stats, one way or the other. Ceres I'm not sure about, but I doubt it seriously. Astrologically (rather than astronomically) speaking, this may because Pluto has a strong link to power, especially the collective power of organizations and civilizations. A candidate normally must be able to use Pluto power well, I conclude, in order to get elected president and do the job well. But Trump himself seems to have little connection with Pluto. It's all about his "populist" Jupiter-Uranus, and his Mars energy. Now Obama, on the other hand, had some powerful, favorable Pluto aspects.

-- that's true about Pluto wrt organizations & civilizations. Which is why in general it's more important in mundane charts & long term forecasting (for instance, how many ppl have a Pluto Return, which the United States is due for in a few yrs. I'm gonna stick my neck out here & say the Pluto Return is important in determining the outcome of the 4T) but yeah, if it is heavily aspected in a personal chart it carries more weight. Same for any planet

The influence of Ceres, since her promotion to dwarf planet, needs to be studied more. The aforementioned Dayton astrologer is one of the few l know of doing research. I find it interseting that NASA has sent probes (New Dawn & New Horizon) to both dwarf planets around the same time. I think we need to probe Ceres astrologically too

Yup; been sticking my neck out on that one for decades. And Pluto is already within orb of conjunction with our natal Pluto, so, as of our entry into Trumpland, the Pluto Return has in fact already started.

Study Ceres more; likely a good idea.
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Eric M
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Sherrod Brown - by Eric the Green - 05-19-2016, 12:17 PM
RE: It's in the "stars" (predicting by astrology and other means) - by Eric the Green - 02-02-2017, 04:55 PM
Indicators - cindercators. - by Ragnarök_62 - 09-03-2017, 04:41 AM

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