Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can!

[Classic-Xer]

(02-26-2022, 10:43 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-24-2022, 09:11 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Anyone still supporting Donald Trump, and by consequence Vladimir Putin, is a Russian asset who deserves to be deported to its rightful ownership.

Through Oymyahon or Verkhoyansk (the two coldest communities in the winter in the northern hemisphere).

Maybe Trump is a Russian asset that could be confiscated.

Trump still has a higher approval rating than Biden, by a couple of points. It's really sickening. But I'm sure the "American" Classic Xer is right in Trump's and Putin's corner.

What all is going on now is more sickening dude. You and others like you helped make what all is going on here and what's going on with Ukraine possible by electing Biden and essentially reversing course and weakening our position in the world. Right now, you and the others are in Biden's, Clinton's, Putin's and China's corner and that's where you're all going to remain throughout the 4T. I hope you and the others are fully prepared for what's coming because you are going to find yourselves pretty much abandoned and left on your own without a country to fall back on or rely on. You all deserve it. You've deserved it for many years. Do you want to know what I think, I think we should replace 40 of you (Democratic/Biden supporters) with 40 million Ukrainians.

[pbrower2a]

(03-03-2022, 02:44 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(02-26-2022, 10:43 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-24-2022, 09:11 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Anyone still supporting Donald Trump, and by consequence Vladimir Putin, is a Russian asset who deserves to be deported to its rightful ownership.

Through Oymyahon or Verkhoyansk (the two coldest communities in the winter in the northern hemisphere).

Maybe Trump is a Russian asset that could be confiscated.

Trump still has a higher approval rating than Biden, by a couple of points. It's really sickening. But I'm sure the "American" Classic Xer is right in Trump's and Putin's corner.

What all is going on now is more sickening dude. You and others like you helped make what all is going on here and what's going on with Ukraine possible by electing Biden and essentially reversing course and weakening our position in the world.

With Donald Trump off the world stage, Putin started to run out of time. As I see it this invasion might have come earlier were Trump still President. Do you consider either complicity or slavish devotion as strong positions? President Biden has learned a few things from Obama (yes, I realize that you despise him, but that is irrelevant). One is to trust the experts at intelligence -- that is, the CIA.

Your side decided first that Donald Trump was the right nominee despite all the warning signs -- no loyalty to any but himself, a disdain for ethical principles, a perverse idea of what the Presidency is (a hint: our President does not have dictatorial or despotic powers), and an adoration for tyrants. how often must I tell you that the next effective conservative President will act much more like Obama than like Trump. Obama never left any question of where his loyalties lay... a hint: at that he was indistinguishable from Ronald Reagan.

Quote:Right now, you and the others are in Biden's, Clinton's,  Putin's and China's corner and that's where you're all going to remain throughout the 4T.

You are completely wrong against the second two.

Quote:I hope you and the others are fully prepared for what's coming because you are going to find yourselves pretty much abandoned and left  on your own without a country to fall back on or rely on. You all deserve it. You've deserved it for many years. Do you want to know what I think, I think we should replace 40 of you (Democratic/Biden supporters) with 40 million Ukrainians.

40 of us for 40 million Ukrainians? Why not follow my modest suggestion. Let some hard-working, clean-living illegal aliens get residence in America on the condition that they adopt the children of some of our finest examples of failure, our worst and most intractable drug fiends. Latino culture isn't harmful to kids, as is shown by America's fast-growing Latino middle class. F--- fentanyl, heroin, and meth!

[Classic-Xer]

(03-03-2022, 07:33 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: With Donald Trump off the world stage, Putin started to run out of time. As I see it this invasion might have come earlier were Trump still President. Do you consider either complicity or slavish devotion as strong positions? President Biden has learned a few things from Obama (yes, I realize that you despise him, but that is irrelevant). One is to trust the experts at intelligence -- that is, the CIA.

Your side decided first that Donald Trump was the right nominee despite all the warning signs -- no loyalty to any but himself, a disdain for ethical principles, a perverse idea of what the Presidency is (a hint: our President does not have dictatorial or despotic powers), and an adoration for tyrants. how often must I tell you that the next effective conservative President will act much more like Obama than like Trump. Obama never left any question of where his loyalties lay... a hint: at that he was indistinguishable from Ronald Reagan.

I think Putin is taking full advantage of Biden being in office myself. Putin knows that Biden isn't up to the task and he knows Biden is in no condition to lead the world during war. I hope one of the other European leaders are able to step up and take his place in that role. So, how much lower can Biden sink in the polls before he completely loses power over the country? As far as Obama, Obama showed me that he was a loyal Democrat and mainly interested in getting reelected and that's about it. I didn't think much of Obama as a leader but I didn't despise him at the time. I don't care about what happens to him today anymore than you care about what happens to Trump or your old nemesis GW.

[Classic-Xer]

(02-25-2022, 09:34 AM)beechnut79 Wrote:

(02-25-2022, 06:39 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Indeed, we face the same challenge to democracy at home that we do from abroad. Trump is just one of the many dictators to arise and get stronger in this era we are living through. I don't know what's in store for sure, but looking at the prospects from my cosmic perspective, I take it that we are about to enter the resolution period of our crisis, and if we step up to the task, victory will follow. And we will leave the period of increasingly tight royal rule as in the 1770s to an era of revolution that changed the world and set in motion democratic movements still echoing from that original one in 1789-94.

It's time now for patriots to step forward, and liberate us from Putin and his fellow monster dictators, and as well from the gas and oil barons that now hold us hostage to Russia by convincing Biden not to sanction Russia's oil and gas business for fear of high gas prices.

You seem to be jumping ahead. This just might be the regeneracy we have been waiting for. And isn’t the resolution the final act of the crisis period? And didn’t you predict that the crisis would not be resolved until this decade’s end? Aren’t crisis period typically about focusing on a task and completing it? And making sure we’ve done our research and prep work in advance, so that going forward, we’re building on a strong foundation. A time when we should have our eye on the prize and nothing can deter us.

Are you an avid Democratic fan/supporter like the others with the exception of Dave?

[pbrower2a]

(03-03-2022, 09:48 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(03-03-2022, 07:33 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: With Donald Trump off the world stage, Putin started to run out of time. As I see it this invasion might have come earlier were Trump still President. Do you consider either complicity or slavish devotion as strong positions? President Biden has learned a few things from Obama (yes, I realize that you despise him, but that is irrelevant). One is to trust the experts at intelligence -- that is, the CIA.

Your side decided first that Donald Trump was the right nominee despite all the warning signs -- no loyalty to any but himself, a disdain for ethical principles, a perverse idea of what the Presidency is (a hint: our President does not have dictatorial or despotic powers), and an adoration for tyrants. how often must I tell you that the next effective conservative President will act much more like Obama than like Trump. Obama never left any question of where his loyalties lay... a hint: at that he was indistinguishable from Ronald Reagan.

I think Putin is taking full advantage of Biden being in office myself.

Predatory personalities, a/k/a sociopaths, always size up others (except for loved ones, benefactors, and accomplices) for weaknesses. Such people may be rapists, swindlers, or outright robbers. If there is a system they seek to circumvent its accounting controls. Among leaders of real or imagined powers they seek the means of conquering other countries, seizing assets ultimately for personal benefit, and turning once-free people into thralls. Vladimir Putin has just left no question of what he is.

This is not to say that sociopathic leaders like Putin assess the situation well. The opportunity that they see may be a complete phantom. I look at the former military clique of Argentina that saw the Falkland Islands as too difficult for British forces there to defend and a female leader as evidence of weakness and lack of resolution. She would quickly come to her senses and accede to the Inevitable -- that the Falkland Islands would become a part of Argentina.

Those military leaders were your basic bad boy's club full of men who do not think highly of women. Margaret Thatcher would prove them very wrong. But adding to the poor judgment of those leaders they had angered mothers of young adults whom that regime had "disappeared". In the aftermath of a national disgrace those women suddenly found that they could challenge a weakened dictatorship about its murders. The regime toppled.

Vladimir Putin has tended to use brute force against real and imagined enemies. Run afoul of him, and there might be some polonium-210 in your beverage. Oh, one can use brute force with some sophistication, as the former Commie Bulgarian secret police did to the dissident writer Georgi Markov. An agent in London carrying an umbrella (umbrellas are common in London) jabbed him with a specially-designed umbrella that pierced his skin just enough to introduce a ball of ricin into him. Ricin at 22 micrograms per kilogram of weight introduced subcutaneously is lethal.

Quote:Putin knows that Biden isn't up to the task and he knows Biden is in no condition to lead the world during war.

Hitler "knew" that the elderly drunkard Churchill and the cripple Franklin Roosevelt weren't up to waging war against him. The result of his assessment was his demise.

Quote:I hope one of the other European  leaders are able to step up and take his place in that role.  So, how much lower can Biden sink in the polls before he completely loses power over the country?

It's a coalition. By the way -- no President of the United States has ever been overthrown due to unpopularity in a coup. We know enough to put up with an ineffective President on the assumption that the next election will solve that 'problem'. You are in no position to assume further slippage in the polls. Impeachment and removal is possible for gross misconduct by the President if Congress so deems. By the way -- Trump should have been impeached and removed for the attempt to blackmail the President of Ukraine (the current one) into smearing Trump's likeliest opponent. 

Quote:As far as Obama, Obama showed me that he was a loyal Democrat and mainly interested in getting reelected and that's about it. I didn't think much of Obama as a leader but I didn't despise him at the time. I don't care about what happens to him today anymore than you care about what happens to Trump or your old nemesis GW.

At least Dubya has had the decency to stay out of politics. Trump attempted to nullify the election that he lost in a violent insurrection against Congress.

[pbrower2a]

Not that it is funny... but if one is President and wants one's foreign policy to not blow up in one's face, it is wise to be on good terms with the CIA. Yes, we all know that it has done some odious stuff against Arbenz, Mossadegh, and Allende... but at the behest of Presidents. On the other hand the CIA was the only entity capable of honing in on Osama Bin Laden so that Seal Team 6 could whack him.. and practically ensure the re-election of President Obama.

Trump had at best a stormy (and I don't mean "Stormy Daniels") relationship with the CIA. He could accept Putin's flattery as good faith. I just got the latest issue of Time Magazine involving the Russo-Ukrainian War (what else can one call it?)... and it seems that neither President Biden nor Zelensky was caught off guard. Only the CIA could get that assessment.  

At this point we can be glad that Donald Trump was in no position to muck things up. Contrary to the cynical assessment of the usual devotee of Machiavellian practice, integrity and decency are survival values. So of course is rational thought.

[pbrower2a]

That is an easy choice!

[Eric the Green]

Trump and others blame the Ukraine invasion on whatever our own grievance is. Sorry girl, I can't get it up tonight because of Ukraine... plus, a Tom Lehrer imitation?

[pbrower2a]

[Eric the Green]

Today's surprise Jan. 6th Committee hearing featured testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson who described shockingly violent behavior by the former president and damning details about how White House officials knew things could get out of control at the "Stop The Steal" rally

[pbrower2a]

The jerks bringing Confederate flags and Trump banners into Congress were low humor. The "stop the steal" was ludicrous. The attempt to introduce states of "alternative electors" was absurd. But put those together and Trump isn't so funny any more. You'd need a Mel Brooks to put such together as low comedy. Brooks was good enough to make Nazis, of all people, the butts of jokes, as in The Producers. So far as I can tell, he is alive and well, but he is 96. Few people do comedy well past age 75, which is about when Mel Brooks effectively retired from what he did so masterfully.

If the Homelander generation is to be anything like the Lost, then one of its cultural strengths will be comedy. I can make the case that the Silent (Brooks is a prime example) made their greatest cultural contribution to America through comedy as other generations could not. The zany comedians that we used to take for granted from the Silent generation are either dead (Andy Griffith, Alan King, Joan Rivers), or aren't doing it anymore. Comedy is a tricky expression.  I see Donald Trump as an obvious target for ridicule, much as the Monty Python crew mocked fascists and the Spanish Inquisition.






and Mel Brooks himself:



 

and the aforesaid Mel Brooks.

There will be plenty of material to spoof. Trump and Putin will be obvious. So will things that many of us used to consider deadly serious, like the Cold War.

[Eric the Green]

The Jan. 6th Committee painted a chilling and criminally insane portrait of the former president's attempt to steal the election by weaponizing the Department of Justice.

[Eric the Green]

Trump wants to run for office while under legal investigation with the hope that juries will be influenced to regard these investigations as politically motivated. And if he became president again, Trump says, he would put a stop to such "witch hunts" against him by the Attorney General that he appoints to head the Justice Department.

I remember two things. First, President Nixon was hounded from the presidency by his own Party after it was revealed that he told the Justice Department to squash the Watergate investigation. So now Trump wants to be Nixon and get away with it this time, and this time he has a Party which would enable him to do it.





Second, Eugene Debs ran for president in the 1920 election while in prison in Atlanta, Georgia, at the Atlanta Federal Penitentiary. He received 919,799 votes (3.4 percent), slightly less than he had won in 1912, when he received 6 percent, the highest number of votes for a Socialist Party presidential candidate in United States history. So the fact is that it is possible to run for president while in jail. WHY NOT impose this hampering condition on him, then?

[pbrower2a]

In theory, someone could have a campaign to like the Unabomber, but that's not to say that he would be able to do any campaigning.

[David Horn]

(07-07-2022, 11:45 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: The Jan. 6th Committee painted a chilling and criminally insane portrait of the former president's attempt to steal the election by weaponizing the Department of Justice.

It seems to have worked.  So far, we're seeing a few small fish get jail time, but no serious players even getting indicted.  Now, it seems the Secret Service was totally compromised too, so it seems Trump did a bang-up job of destroying the government from the inside.

Which begs the questioin: where are the defenders of democracy?  Sitting in their rocking chairs, apparently, becuase I don't see anyone going for ht jugler here at all.  Why?  And why support a bunch of milquetoast respondents?  For the record: I'll certainly vote, but I'm not giving anyone a dime.

[pbrower2a]

(07-20-2022, 03:30 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(07-07-2022, 11:45 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: The Jan. 6th Committee painted a chilling and criminally insane portrait of the former president's attempt to steal the election by weaponizing the Department of Justice.

It seems to have worked.  So far, we're seeing a few small fish get jail time, but no serious players even getting indicted.  Now, it seems the Secret Service was totally compromised too, so it seems Trump did a bang-up job of destroying the government from the inside.

  

Donald Trump is a master of corruption and self-promotion above all else. It's hard to see any other areas of expertise that he has ever had at any time of his life. Sophistication? His atrocious taste suggests a complete lack of aesthetic refinement that one expects of the usual college graduate. 
Harry Truman spent no time in college, but he apparently had read all the books in the Independence (Missouri) Library. Libraries were then smaller, but back in those days they contained far less trash and were more heavily the classics. Note well that the Great Books approach to undergraduate education is one valid method. Its graduates may not be technically adept, but the good ones certainly have excellent preparation for law school. (I would like to see that approach return). How well one communicates heavily reflects what one reads, as does one's overall approach to life. One can learn much from Shakespeare alone; Trump obviously does not know Shakespeare... or Dostoevsky... or Goethe... or Dickens... or Voltaire. Can you imagine how dreadful a meeting would have been between Vaclav Havel and Donald Trump? By age 30 Harry Truman was a learned man and Trump wasn't. Truman kept reading and becoming more intellectually sophisticated and Trump has remained unlearned in anything that did not serve his immediate vanity, greed, self-indulgence, and sex drive. Good people do not fully trust vanity, greed, self-indulgence, and the sex drive.   

I can assure you that Trump never read  Dante's Inferno, as it has some ugly assessments of his ultimate fate. Music? I can more easily imagine Barack Obama "getting" J S Bach than Trump can. 

Yes, I know; technically-trained people often are limited in their liberal-arts learning, but Trump did not get that instead.     

A wannabe despot like Donald Trump must corrupt democracy to degrade, weaken, and kill it. Maybe America had institutions more solid than those of Weimar Germany and Trump was not ruthless and Machiavellian enough to overthrow American democracy as Hitler was.  Had he been of different ethnic stock he would have been a mobster. Mobsters succeed by finding and exploiting personal weaknesses from greed to cowardice to self-indulgence. Trump may have learned a few things from them, but if one wants to do real good for people one seeks other methods.  Cutting good deeds for both less dramatically effective than cutting throats, but cutting deals good for both is good for plenty of repeat business. 

Quote:Which begs the question: where are the defenders of democracy?  Sitting in their rocking chairs, apparently, because I don't see anyone going for  the jugular here at all.  Why?  And why support a bunch of milquetoast respondents?  For the record: I'll certainly vote, but I'm not giving anyone a dime.

Let's start with President Biden. He seems to not be a vindictive man, or he is cautious enough to avoid saying things that might compromise a prosecution.  After all, astute prosecutors recognize that the real trial is in the courtroom and not in the pre-trial media (unless the prosecutor slips in tidbits that might cause the suspect to do something to incriminate himself). Donald Trump has a gigantic cult following, and it is as resolute in its support as one expects from Moonies or Scientologists, except that Trump seems to have committed a horrible crime with a speech encouraging an insurrection on his behalf. We may have found the events inside the Capitol disgusting in the extreme, but mercifully they failed badly. The 'alternate electors' plot may have seemed ludicrous, but that was the objective. Much time and effort proved necessary to piece those together. Now we know. I may have recognized the 'alternative slates' of electors as a contingency, but by the middle of November there could be no contingency. 

We have no experience with coups in our country, but this one seems modeled upon the Bolshevik Revolution. From most accounts, Lenin was a spellbinding orator, although Trump has shown himself able to exploit America's right-leaning ignoramuses. I'm not sure that taking over the Capitol would have been adequate, as some other venue such as the sporting arena for the Georgetown Hoyas' basketball games or the arena for the Washington Capitols or Wizards, or some hall at the Pentagon or the US Naval Academy in nearby Annapolis would have served well for an official count of the electoral votes.   Know well: Lenin did not establish dictatorial power until he was able to prevent the duly-elected Constitutive Assembly of the fledgling Russian Republic to assemble to pass laws. 

The overall plot is far more dangerous than we may have thought. The most culpable parties are likely to face criminal prosecution with the potential for very long prison terms.  I could name names, but I won't. More significantly, we need to improve ourselves as a nation. We need become less amenable to the the demagogic populist who appeals to visceral fears of a resentful segment of the public. Maybe we need to deal with those resentments with public policy that allows one to make a living in places in which industrial jobs were once plentiful but are not now, as in a band from Wisconsin and Iowa in the west to Upstate New York and central Pennsylvania in the east. Trump did win Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, which Obama won twice without populist demagoguery.

[Eric the Green]

(07-20-2022, 03:30 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(07-07-2022, 11:45 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: The Jan. 6th Committee painted a chilling and criminally insane portrait of the former president's attempt to steal the election by weaponizing the Department of Justice.

It seems to have worked.  So far, we're seeing a few small fish get jail time, but no serious players even getting indicted.  Now, it seems the Secret Service was totally compromised too, so it seems Trump did a bang-up job of destroying the government from the inside.

Which begs the questioin: where are the defenders of democracy?  Sitting in their rocking chairs, apparently, becuase I don't see anyone going for ht jugler here at all.  Why?  And why support a bunch of milquetoast respondents?  For the record: I'll certainly vote, but I'm not giving anyone a dime.

I will probably give out some dimes. Probably not that much more than that. But the midterms are crucial if we are to survive.

However, it seems like I mostly can't look at what I do as just me doing it. I need to feel that what moves me, moves others too, and those who act are like part of a larger organism or a larger spirit moving us. I have to look at it that way; as an individual alone I don't have too much power. Sometimes I think by writing to a politician or a pundit I can plant an idea. Just how much I can do as an individual I don't really know. But it seems like a rare feat.

Merrick Garland is a cautious chap. But he seems to be giving hints that some indictments may follow. I'd say it may be worth it from time to time to send some prodding emails or messages to folks in power like him.

[Classic-Xer]

(07-23-2022, 03:55 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(07-20-2022, 03:30 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(07-07-2022, 11:45 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: The Jan. 6th Committee painted a chilling and criminally insane portrait of the former president's attempt to steal the election by weaponizing the Department of Justice.

It seems to have worked.  So far, we're seeing a few small fish get jail time, but no serious players even getting indicted.  Now, it seems the Secret Service was totally compromised too, so it seems Trump did a bang-up job of destroying the government from the inside.

Which begs the questioin: where are the defenders of democracy?  Sitting in their rocking chairs, apparently, becuase I don't see anyone going for ht jugler here at all.  Why?  And why support a bunch of milquetoast respondents?  For the record: I'll certainly vote, but I'm not giving anyone a dime.

I will probably give out some dimes. Probably not that much more than that. But the midterms are crucial if we are to survive.

However, it seems like I mostly can't look at what I do as just me doing it. I need to feel that what moves me, moves others too, and those who act are like part of a larger organism or a larger spirit moving us. I have to look at it that way; as an individual alone I don't have too much power. Sometimes I think by writing to a politician or a pundit I can plant an idea. Just how much I can do as an individual I don't really know. But it seems like a rare feat.

Merrick Garland is a cautious chap. But he seems to be giving hints that some indictments may follow. I'd say it may be worth it from time to time to send some prodding emails or messages to folks in power like him.

Garland should be cautious, the ice that he's been standing/ treading on is getting very thin. So, how long do you think it'll be before we have the right to start killing you or the right to do nothing as you're killing yourselves and as others (foreign or domestic) are killing you for whatever reason? You and the others DESERVE what's coming to you. I'll see you sad sacks again in the fall and see if any of you have wised up aka "pulled your head out of your BLUE asses yet".

[pbrower2a]

(07-28-2022, 07:09 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(07-23-2022, 03:55 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(07-20-2022, 03:30 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(07-07-2022, 11:45 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: The Jan. 6th Committee painted a chilling and criminally insane portrait of the former president's attempt to steal the election by weaponizing the Department of Justice.

It seems to have worked.  So far, we're seeing a few small fish get jail time, but no serious players even getting indicted.  Now, it seems the Secret Service was totally compromised too, so it seems Trump did a bang-up job of destroying the government from the inside.

Which begs the questioin: where are the defenders of democracy?  Sitting in their rocking chairs, apparently, becuase I don't see anyone going for ht jugler here at all.  Why?  And why support a bunch of milquetoast respondents?  For the record: I'll certainly vote, but I'm not giving anyone a dime.

I will probably give out some dimes. Probably not that much more than that. But the midterms are crucial if we are to survive.

However, it seems like I mostly can't look at what I do as just me doing it. I need to feel that what moves me, moves others too, and those who act are like part of a larger organism or a larger spirit moving us. I have to look at it that way; as an individual alone I don't have too much power. Sometimes I think by writing to a politician or a pundit I can plant an idea. Just how much I can do as an individual I don't really know. But it seems like a rare feat.

Merrick Garland is a cautious chap. But he seems to be giving hints that some indictments may follow. I'd say it may be worth it from time to time to send some prodding emails or messages to folks in power like him.

Garland should be cautious, the ice that he's been standing/ treading on is getting very thin. So, how long do you think it'll be before we have the right to start killing you or the right to do nothing as you're killing yourselves and as others (foreign or domestic) are killing you for whatever reason? You and the others DESERVE what's coming to you. I'll see you sad sacks again in the fall and see if any of you have wised up aka "pulled your head out of your BLUE asses yet".

Garland is cautious, as is President Biden. Indeed the whole Democratic approach is to let dissident Republicans take out people who have done the really bad stuff. It's the FBI technique. Unlike the Gestapo, NKVD, or Satan Hussein's Mukhabarat, the FBI needs not beat out confessions. Innocent people talk so that they can clear themselves. The FBI may clear dozens of people to find the culprit, and eventually it finds someone who lies about his own innocence. 

We have Trump's absurd speech in which he tells a mob that he is going to the Capitol with them to "stop the steal". People storm the Capitol, overpowering the Capitol Police. People do sundry crimes like bringing in unwelcome symbols such as partisan banners and Confederate flags. People even break into Congressional desks (which may have contained classified material). What's the point? The fake electors, which seemed preposterous at the time -- but that was the objective: to falsify the lawfully-obtained electoral results in which Joe Biden got 306 electoral votes and Donald Trump got 232. 

The process is, so far, polite enough. There is no Roland Freisler or Andrei Vishinsky  demonizing helpless people as creatures less than human. Democrats have let Republicans with impeccable credentials do polite questioning of people who balked at the scheme to falsify our election.  That works for telling the story. 

Maybe things will not be so polite in the end for Alex Jones, whose insane Infowars told people to go to the Capitol. Steve Bannon? Contempt of Congress may be the least of his problems. Mike Flynn? The Benedict Arnold of our time>  I will stop there about him, because I have nothing to say about him that isn't incendiary. Trump himself? If he is lucky, then his bad habits will either kill him or make him unable to be tried. 

Your idea of kllling people who disagree with you is what the criminal syndicate known as the Defence Forces of Myanmar does. The armed forces of Burma are the State and the economy, It is arguably the greatest criminal syndicate in existence since Nazi Germany. It just recently hanged several dissidents.  

Classic X'er, if you believe in such stuff, then I suggest that you take a one-way excursion to Yangon (formerly known as Rangoon)  in Myanmar. recently known as Burma. Mike Flynn's beloved "Minnamar" as he mispronounced it. If you like a government that hangs people for disagreeing with it, then that is your place! 

A normal person would be delighted to escape "Minnamar" for Minnesota in the mid-winter.

[Eric the Green]

Don't bother.