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Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure
The issue seems to be that blues understand and face up to the needs of the times, and the reds resist them and want to hang on to current ways. That's always the tension in society. The question is which side will win. Unless the blue side or the equivalent progressive side wins sometimes, especially in crisis moments, the nation never progresses and never meets the needs of the time, and thus stagnates and declines.

Sure, we need reds and conservatives to put a check proposals that are too disruptive or idealistic, too costly and outlandish. But we also need blues and liberals to push us forward and make needed changes when the times demand them.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
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If the US population pyramid was still pyramid-shaped as it was in the past, and the youth had supported Obama as much as IRL... maybe he'd have won a landslide like FDR. For better or for worse.
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(03-01-2019, 07:57 PM)Hintergrund Wrote: If the US population pyramid was still pyramid-shaped as it was in the past, and the youth had supported Obama as much as IRL... maybe he'd have won a landslide like FDR. For better or for worse.

We live in a world that is rapidly becoming vicarious by preference.  Reality is hard.  The vicarious life can be anything you want it to be.  That's a hard attraction to ignore and even harder to overcome.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.
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If your electricity is cut off, then virtual reality is no longer available. Batteries are not cheap, in case one thinks of those as an alternative. When the virtual world collapses, the real one dominates. The real one can force people to do what isn't so attractive, like farm labor for nothing more than three meals and a cot in barracks.

You may love to play "Empire Builder" as a video game, but your success in building a virtual empire means nothing should you starve or die of exposure.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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This is Kendrick Castillo, the hero who tackled the school shooter in Colorado yesterday. He gave his life to protect his classmates lives, and while 8 more were still shot, I believe his action helped save lives.

Again, these are children forced to make life and death decisions because adults are too busy arguing about an amendment written in 1791 about muskets. I don’t even know who the shooter is (my guess is a white male) and I don’t care anymore. We need Congress to act so kids aren’t losing their lives over something completely preventable.
It is despicable that we still don’t have universal background checks. It is despicable there are online gun shows where mentally ill can contact a private seller and buy a gun in person without a background check. We aren’t trying to take all of your guns. We are trying to make common sense gun reforms so this stops happening.
Imagine if this was your son, daughter, or family member. This angers me to my core. -Joseph Jefferson


Colorado school shooting victim died charging attacker
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(05-09-2019, 06:11 AM)taramarie Wrote: This is Kendrick Castillo, the hero who tackled the school shooter in Colorado yesterday. He gave his life to protect his classmates lives, and while 8 more were still shot, I believe his action helped save lives.

Again, these are children forced to make life and death decisions because adults are too busy arguing about an amendment written in 1791 about muskets. I don’t even know who the shooter is (my guess is a white male) and I don’t care anymore. We need Congress to act so kids aren’t losing their lives over something completely preventable.
It is despicable that we still don’t have universal background checks. It is despicable there are online gun shows where mentally ill can contact a private seller and buy a gun in person without a background check. We aren’t trying to take all of your guns. We are trying to make common sense gun reforms so this stops happening.
Imagine if this was your son, daughter, or family member. This angers me to my core. -Joseph Jefferson


Colorado school shooting victim died charging attacker

This is heroism of the truest kind. Would that we had meaningful background checks with no exemptions.  Gun shows? Require gun buyers to have pre-approval.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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All the elites need to do to get Americans to agree to any new law is to say this decree is for safety or to protect the environment.

You can be sure smoking, rakes, posters, tents, lawnmowers, cups, coffee, belts, socks, boots, scissors, pencils, balls, chairs, blankets, rope, skydiving, baseball hats, cars, dental floss, pillows, rocks, swimming pools, mobile phones, microwaves, perfume, toothpicks, shorts, sunglasses, dogs, cats, suits, dishwashers, bracelets, mints, hammers, books, and wigs will all soon be illegal.
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David Seymour calls out police for 'disturbing' gun raids 

This is happening in my country after the ban on certain types of weapons after the recent mosque shootings from an Australian terrorist. This is disgusting behaviour from our police and is unacceptable. I hope this sort of thing never happens in USA regarding gun owners. It should be respectful, give the gun owners of certain types of guns now illegal the chance to hand them in for compensation as they were doing, and not do this. I am stunned this is happening and police need to act within the law. There was no mention that they would barge in and point guns at people and do raids in houses. I post this so blues are aware that THIS could happen in your country too and it is unacceptable behaviour to people who own these guns and are treated as if they have shot someone just because they own an illegal gun. It should not be taken in this manner. EVER.
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The only difference from the government and the Mafia today is that the government has a flag in front of their office.
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(05-10-2019, 10:38 PM)denver59 Wrote: The only difference from the government and the Mafia today is that the government has a flag in front of their office.

Why no one has started to call DJT Mafia Don is a mystery to me.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.
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(05-10-2019, 09:31 PM)taramarie Wrote: David Seymour calls out police for 'disturbing' gun raids 

This is happening in my country after the ban on certain types of weapons after the recent mosque shootings from an Australian terrorist. This is disgusting behaviour from our police and is unacceptable. I hope this sort of thing never happens in USA regarding gun owners. It should be respectful, give the gun owners of certain types of guns now illegal the chance to hand them in for compensation as they were doing, and not do this. I am stunned this is happening and police need to act within the law. There was no mention that they would barge in and point guns at people and do raids in houses. I post this so blues are aware that THIS could happen in your country too and it is unacceptable behaviour to people who own these guns and are treated as if they have shot someone just because they own an illegal gun. It should not be taken in this manner. EVER.
If the guns are illegal to own or have in ones possession then what they are doing is legal. I thought you supported the law that made semiautomatic weapons illegal. What did you expect to happen?
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Americans don't see tyranny as a loss, Americans see tyranny as a gain.

Americans don't view losing their right to free speech, guns, religion, property, privacy, silence, trials, freedom from torture, and life as a loss because they will gain safety.

Americans think tyranny only punishes others and freedom never benefits them.

Americans scream that they are resisting tyranny, but do you see any protests?

If Americans knew even a little history then they would realize that tyranny does not stop until everyone ends up in the concentration camps.

Americans deserve everything coming to them.
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(05-14-2019, 10:31 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-10-2019, 09:31 PM)taramarie Wrote: David Seymour calls out police for 'disturbing' gun raids 

This is happening in my country after the ban on certain types of weapons after the recent mosque shootings from an Australian terrorist. This is disgusting behaviour from our police and is unacceptable. I hope this sort of thing never happens in USA regarding gun owners. It should be respectful, give the gun owners of certain types of guns now illegal the chance to hand them in for compensation as they were doing, and not do this. I am stunned this is happening and police need to act within the law. There was no mention that they would barge in and point guns at people and do raids in houses. I post this so blues are aware that THIS could happen in your country too and it is unacceptable behaviour to people who own these guns and are treated as if they have shot someone just because they own an illegal gun. It should not be taken in this manner. EVER.
If the guns are illegal to own or have in ones possession then what they are doing is legal. I thought you supported the law that made semiautomatic weapons illegal. What did you expect to happen?
I do support it being illegal. What they are doing is morally wrong though. They were told by officials to allow people to hand in guns, expect a buyback payment and that is what they were doing. Now they are doing something that is illegal. Yes, that is illegal barging into houses. That is not legal.
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(05-16-2019, 06:16 PM)rde7 Wrote: Americans don't see tyranny as a loss, Americans see tyranny as a gain.

Nope. Almost everyone sees evil in Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, VD Amin, Satan Hussein, and the Kim dynasty.


Quote:Americans don't view losing their right to free speech, guns, religion, property, privacy, silence, trials, freedom from torture, and life as a loss because they will gain safety.

We are obviously safest when government must respect core freedoms. One has privacy rights unless one uses those for criminal purposes. Having threatened to commit suicide, I SHOULD NOT HAVE A FIREARM unless I can prove that it is for hunting. For defense against crime, a dog is a powerful deterrent against the usual criminal.


Quote:Americans think tyranny only punishes others and freedom never benefits them.

How wrong you are! Just think of the non-black people who supported the struggle for civil rights of Southern blacks. Sure, that was over fifty years ago, but that is in the same league as resisting George III or operating the Underground Railroad. I assure you that our history books for K-12 education have some wholesome models of resistance to even the mildest forms of tyranny.

Quote:Americans scream that they are resisting tyranny, but do you see any protests?

I have participated in anti-Trump rallies --including the first protest rally in which I had been in my life.


Quote:If Americans knew even a little history then they would realize that tyranny does not stop until everyone ends up in the concentration camps.

Or if tyranny is thwarted. People need to start with moderate forms of resistance such as interference in governmental misconduct.

Quote:Americans deserve everything coming to them.

Does "German Jews deserve everything coming to them", if uttered in 1934 you-know-where, make a strong moral argument today?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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libertarian ideologues don't listen to any truth or fact.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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The elites love socialism because they want the 99% weakened and dead.

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-billion...ton-2015-9

The police state doesn’t protect you. Tyranny helps the elites meet their private prison quotas.

The elites want you to lose your free speech rights and gun rights so you can’t resist.

The elites want you to lose your 4th amendment rights so they can wiretap and frisk you and take your property through asset forfeiture.

The elites want you lose your right to a trial so they can torture and kill you.

Taxation is theft. Quit if you don’t like low pay and don’t buy dangerous food if you don’t like it.

You don’t have to buy from anyone. You don’t have to work at any particular job. You don’t have to participate in any given relationship. You can choose.

The big difference between private business and tyranny is that you can boycott the free market, but the government forces you at gunpoint to do something or not do something.

The USSR failed.

http://www.businessinsider.com/a-chillin...lag-2015-3

The elites control Hollywood, the media, Wall Street, and the government.

Almost nothing major happens in the US without the approval of the elites.

Debt benefits the elites.

Nanny state laws help our overlords meet their private private quotas.

There are wars because the 1% owns the defense companies and they want more refugees to reduce wages.

There are food stamps because the 1% owns the food corporations and makes money from the bank fees.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1...78457.html

The ruling class supports Obamacare and mandatory liability insurance laws because they make money from insurance premiums.

The elites support illegal immigration because they want to divide the population.

The 1% supports homosexuality because immorality weakens the US.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1748122/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_7

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0467406/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0879870/

https://us.benetton.com

When was the last time you saw a movie about the Bill of Rights, freedom, or family values?

Why are immorality, blacks, and illegal immigrants praised, but morality and white men are ridiculed?

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2015/07/15/emo...-at-espys/

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/17/cnn-an...mmigrants/

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/02/chris-...-catholic/

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index...poste.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/gary-john...-is-2016-9

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-sup...tt-2016-12

What if the reason the 99% are not in concentration camps now is because the US Ponzi economy has not collapsed yet and Americans still have guns?

http://markanderson.bangordailynews.com/...zi-scheme/

Why is anyone who supports immorality, war, debt, welfare, tyranny, and illegal immigrants is labeled normal, but anyone who supports morals, peace, a balanced budget, personal responsibility, freedom, and reduced immigration is called a spammer, troll, shill, bot, racist, junkie, retard, or nutjob and is censored, banned, gets an IRS audit, is arrested, or killed?

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/marylan...story.html

http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index.ss...or_ha.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.3226668

The elites don’t care if the US collapses because they live in gated compounds with security guards on private islands, go to private schools, and have private jets to fly them to private airports.

Freedom is not your enemy. Tyranny is the enemy.

Wake up.

Think.

Pass the word.
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(05-22-2019, 08:44 PM)Pote Wrote: The elites love socialism because they want the 99% weakened and dead.

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-billion...ton-2015-9

The police state doesn’t protect you. Tyranny helps the elites meet their private prison quotas.

The elites want you to lose your free speech rights and gun rights so you can’t resist.

The elites want you to lose your 4th amendment rights so they can wiretap and frisk you and take your property through asset forfeiture.

The elites want you lose your right to a trial so they can torture and kill you.

Taxation is theft. Quit if you don’t like low pay and don’t buy dangerous food if you don’t like it.

You don’t have to buy from anyone. You don’t have to work at any particular job. You don’t have to participate in any given relationship. You can choose.

The big difference between private business and tyranny is that you can boycott the free market, but the government forces you at gunpoint to do something or not do something.

The USSR failed.

http://www.businessinsider.com/a-chillin...lag-2015-3

The elites control Hollywood, the media, Wall Street, and the government.

Almost nothing major happens in the US without the approval of the elites.

Debt benefits the elites.

Nanny state laws help our overlords meet their private private quotas.

There are wars because the 1% owns the defense companies and they want more refugees to reduce wages.

There are food stamps because the 1% owns the food corporations and makes money from the bank fees.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1...78457.html

The ruling class supports Obamacare and mandatory liability insurance laws because they make money from insurance premiums.

The elites support illegal immigration because they want to divide the population.

The 1% supports homosexuality because immorality weakens the US.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1748122/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_7

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0467406/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0879870/

https://us.benetton.com

When was the last time you saw a movie about the Bill of Rights, freedom, or family values?

Why are immorality, blacks, and illegal immigrants praised, but morality and white men are ridiculed?

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2015/07/15/emo...-at-espys/

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/17/cnn-an...mmigrants/

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/02/chris-...-catholic/

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index...poste.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/gary-john...-is-2016-9

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-sup...tt-2016-12

What if the reason the 99% are not in concentration camps now is because the US Ponzi economy has not collapsed yet and Americans still have guns?

http://markanderson.bangordailynews.com/...zi-scheme/

Why is anyone who supports immorality, war, debt, welfare, tyranny, and illegal immigrants is labeled normal, but anyone who supports morals, peace, a balanced budget, personal responsibility, freedom, and reduced immigration is called a spammer, troll, shill, bot, racist, junkie, retard, or nutjob and is censored, banned, gets an IRS audit, is arrested, or killed?

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/marylan...story.html

http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index.ss...or_ha.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.3226668

The elites don’t care if the US collapses because they live in gated compounds with security guards on private islands, go to private schools, and have private jets to fly them to private airports.

Freedom is not your enemy. Tyranny is the enemy.

Wake up.

Think.

Pass the word.
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the answer should be fascinating.
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The USA is an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state now.

The situation in the US seems to be that the elites give politicians campaign donations and cushy job promises to make decrees, the Gestapo enforces the laws, and the 99% obeys the laws. The only reason the system works now is because everyone still thinks it is legit. If no one obeyed, the whole rigged game would crumble.

Americans don't know that the US is collapsing or don't care.

The USA might collapse, but giving up is insane.

Do you think the collapse only affects others? Do you think that you are immune? Do you feel any responsibility at all?

Do you think Nazis were not responsible for killing people? Are the Gestapo not responsible for arresting people or were they just following orders? TSA agents are not responsible for groping people? Americans who pay taxes that fund wars, debt, and tyranny are blameless?

Do you think Russians just walked around the USSR thinking tyranny didn't apply to them and that gulags didn't exist?

Will you just be able to pretend that your online bank account has not been zeroed out and cash is not worthless when the stock market crashes?

Do you you think that you will just be able to ignore the roving mobs who break windows looking for food when the economy collapses?

Do you think that you will be able to opt-out when a black van pulls up to your house, the DHS knocks down you door, and loads you on to a train headed to the concentration camps?

Do you think that you will be able to ignore the nuclear bombs that explode when China and Russia retaliate against American attacks?

Thomas Paine, Patrick Henry, Gandhi, MLK, Snowden, Manning, and Assange threw their lives away to speak out against injustice. Why can't you?

Americans who stay silent today and do nothing while the US collapses are no better than the elites who are driving the USA into the ground.
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