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Subreddits for Millennials on the fringe to rejoin the center
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Reddit has groups for Millennials who are raised on the fringe to rejoin the mainstream. For example-

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/ for exMormons.

Millennials raised by anti vaxxers have been looking to reddit for help-

https://psmag.com/social-justice/why-the...rEA43rQJdk

Here is a subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/
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#2
Kudos to the young man, whose parents were anti-vaxxers, and who recently testified against the anti-vaxxers in the congress.



"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
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#3
I like how calm, measured and reasonable the young man is.
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(03-11-2019, 06:21 AM)sbarrera Wrote: I like how calm, measured and reasonable the young man is.

This is the civic side of the Civic generation, that has been so self absorbed until recently.  I hope it's a precursor, not an anomaly.
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(03-09-2019, 05:59 PM)sbarrera Wrote: Reddit has groups for Millennials who are raised on the fringe to rejoin the mainstream. For example-

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/ for exMormons.

Millennials raised by anti vaxxers have been looking to reddit for help-

https://psmag.com/social-justice/why-the...rEA43rQJdk

Here is a subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/

This makes sense. Prophetic generations tend to drop out of the mainstream, civics do the opposite. The more we see this sort of things, the closer the 1T is.
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(03-11-2019, 12:54 PM)Bill the Piper Wrote: This makes sense. Prophetic generations tend to drop out of the mainstream, civics do the opposite. The more we see this sort of things, the closer the 1T is.

Poking fun at today's civics being mainstream-



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#7
The bro version of the above-



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(03-11-2019, 12:54 PM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(03-09-2019, 05:59 PM)sbarrera Wrote: Reddit has groups for Millennials who are raised on the fringe to rejoin the mainstream. For example-

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/ for exMormons.

Millennials raised by anti vaxxers have been looking to reddit for help-

https://psmag.com/social-justice/why-the...rEA43rQJdk

Here is a subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/

This makes sense. Prophetic generations tend to drop out of the mainstream, civics do the opposite. The more we see this sort of things, the closer the 1T is.

Then explain why so many Millennials are NEETs by choice, especially ones with autism or who don't fit in with their peers? For the individualistic Millennials many of us decide to reject the entire world around us. What's less mainstream than that?
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(03-28-2019, 04:04 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:
(03-11-2019, 12:54 PM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(03-09-2019, 05:59 PM)sbarrera Wrote: Reddit has groups for Millennials who are raised on the fringe to rejoin the mainstream. For example-

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/ for exMormons.

Millennials raised by anti vaxxers have been looking to reddit for help-

https://psmag.com/social-justice/why-the...rEA43rQJdk

Here is a subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/

This makes sense. Prophetic generations tend to drop out of the mainstream, civics do the opposite. The more we see this sort of things, the closer the 1T is.

Then explain why so many Millennials are NEETs by choice, especially ones with autism or who don't fit in with their peers? For the individualistic Millennials many of us decide to reject the entire world around us. What's less mainstream than that?

Well, if they all do it, it becomes mainstream.   Undecided
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(04-13-2019, 08:50 AM)sbarrera Wrote:
(03-28-2019, 04:04 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote: Then explain why so many Millennials are NEETs by choice, especially ones with autism or who don't fit in with their peers? For the individualistic Millennials many of us decide to reject the entire world around us. What's less mainstream than that?

Well, if they all do it, it becomes mainstream.   Undecided

I have a agree with this in full. Mainstream is a concept based on acceptance, not some arbitrary standard. Human sacrifice has been mainstream in some ancient cultures, so there seems to be no outer boundary except general acceptance of any given belief or practice. The blowback to bad choices comes later. The practice, good or bad, has to occur first.
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#11
As someone on the spectrum I can say...

Life can be incredibly frustrating. Worst of all is having no clue so that one struggles with job placement and retention, with finding compatible people as potential spouses, seeing malign intent where it isn't, and overall being thwarted in getting to enjoy a good life. Our society is good in recognizing obvious handicaps and even meeting desires of the stupid. Stupidity? Sure. Many jobs are best done by a dull-normal person, and such institutions as advertising, religion, and even politics are able to reach the dim-witted. Politics? Has any political leader in recent American reached so low in intellectual appeal as Donald Trump?

Someone needed to get a hold of me and lead me in a suitable educational and vocational direction. "You are smart enough- you can do anything!" does not apply to people with Asperger's. With bad facial recognition I have a hard time making friends.

If we can mainstream homosexuality as quickly as we have, then we can mainstream people on the autistic spectrum. We can be taught to cover our weaknesses such as a lack of natural empathy. (Fake it, and act as if you have it, as empathy is usually a winning proposition). If we have the intelligence, then maybe we could attend colleges that fit us.

I do not want any special privileges. I would like to have some happiness mostly in a sense of accomplishment and some desirable experiences.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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#12
"NEET"?? que es?
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

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Eric M
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(04-13-2019, 06:36 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: "NEET"?? que es?

It stands for: Not in Education, Employment, or Training.
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(04-13-2019, 08:50 AM)sbarrera Wrote:
(03-28-2019, 04:04 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:
(03-11-2019, 12:54 PM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(03-09-2019, 05:59 PM)sbarrera Wrote: Reddit has groups for Millennials who are raised on the fringe to rejoin the mainstream. For example-

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/ for exMormons.

Millennials raised by anti vaxxers have been looking to reddit for help-

https://psmag.com/social-justice/why-the...rEA43rQJdk

Here is a subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/

This makes sense. Prophetic generations tend to drop out of the mainstream, civics do the opposite. The more we see this sort of things, the closer the 1T is.

Then explain why so many Millennials are NEETs by choice, especially ones with autism or who don't fit in with their peers? For the individualistic Millennials many of us decide to reject the entire world around us. What's less mainstream than that?

Well, if they all do it, it becomes mainstream.   Undecided

They aren't all doing it though. It's a minority of people who don't fit in with their peers or elders. I'm talking about this specific minority.
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(04-13-2019, 09:19 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(04-13-2019, 08:50 AM)sbarrera Wrote:
(03-28-2019, 04:04 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote: Then explain why so many Millennials are NEETs by choice, especially ones with autism or who don't fit in with their peers? For the individualistic Millennials many of us decide to reject the entire world around us. What's less mainstream than that?

Well, if they all do it, it becomes mainstream.   Undecided

I have a agree with this in full. Mainstream is a concept based on acceptance, not some arbitrary standard. Human sacrifice has been mainstream in some ancient cultures, so there seems to be no outer boundary except general acceptance of any given belief or practice. The blowback to bad choices comes later. The practice, good or bad, has to occur first.

Then by that standard the prophet dropping out the mainstream was mainstream. Each generation makes its own specific society. I would argue that a Civic dropping out the mainstream is less mainstream than a prophet doing so because then the dropping out isn't a big trend but on the actual fringes.
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(04-14-2019, 06:17 AM)AspieMillennial Wrote:
(04-13-2019, 08:50 AM)sbarrera Wrote:
(03-28-2019, 04:04 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:
(03-11-2019, 12:54 PM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(03-09-2019, 05:59 PM)sbarrera Wrote: Reddit has groups for Millennials who are raised on the fringe to rejoin the mainstream. For example-

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/ for exMormons.

Millennials raised by anti vaxxers have been looking to reddit for help-

https://psmag.com/social-justice/why-the...rEA43rQJdk

Here is a subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/

This makes sense. Prophetic generations tend to drop out of the mainstream, civics do the opposite. The more we see this sort of things, the closer the 1T is.

Then explain why so many Millennials are NEETs by choice, especially ones with autism or who don't fit in with their peers? For the individualistic Millennials many of us decide to reject the entire world around us. What's less mainstream than that?

Well, if they all do it, it becomes mainstream.   Undecided

They aren't all doing it though. It's a minority of people who don't fit in with their peers or elders. I'm talking about this specific minority.

All I can say is that someone who finds it difficult to fit in socially would, by definition, have a hard time joining the mainstream then. It's different for a kid who is raised Mormon or ant-vax and decides that the way they are being raised is bullshit and they just want to be like the majority. They are breaking away from their environment and finding a new environment - one they know exists because they are aware of other social worlds. But if a kid can't fit into any social world then it's different. 

So what % of Millennials are NEETs? That would be the question I would look to answer first.
Steve Barrera

[A]lthough one would like to change today's world back to the spirit of one hundred years or more ago, it cannot be done. Thus it is important to make the best out of every generation. - Hagakure

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#17
(04-14-2019, 08:17 AM)sbarrera Wrote:
(04-14-2019, 06:17 AM)AspieMillennial Wrote:
(04-13-2019, 08:50 AM)sbarrera Wrote:
(03-28-2019, 04:04 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:
(03-11-2019, 12:54 PM)Bill the Piper Wrote: This makes sense. Prophetic generations tend to drop out of the mainstream, civics do the opposite. The more we see this sort of things, the closer the 1T is.

Then explain why so many Millennials are NEETs by choice, especially ones with autism or who don't fit in with their peers? For the individualistic Millennials many of us decide to reject the entire world around us. What's less mainstream than that?

Well, if they all do it, it becomes mainstream.   Undecided

They aren't all doing it though. It's a minority of people who don't fit in with their peers or elders. I'm talking about this specific minority.

All I can say is that someone who finds it difficult to fit in socially would, by definition, have a hard time joining the mainstream then. It's different for a kid who is raised Mormon or ant-vax and decides that the way they are being raised is bullshit and they just want to be like the majority. They are breaking away from their environment and finding a new environment - one they know exists because they are aware of other social worlds. But if a kid can't fit into any social world then it's different. 

So what % of Millennials are NEETs? That would be the question I would look to answer first.

This wouldn't be an accurate gauge for me because I'm not counting people who are unemployed by no choice of their own even though technically they are NEETs. I'm not talking about people who just had a rough time in the recession because of the 2008 crash. They didn't withdraw on purpose and many of them did fit in well with their peers and believe in the social norms. It was just an economic bomb was dropped on them.

I'm talking about people who actively drop out of the mainstream culture and often see others as NPCs, people who are completely tired of playing social games and see the world as bullshit. People that have never fit in with their peers and who are so far away from mainstream culture they feel like aliens. Many people with Asperger's feel this way, especially around my generation.

I think you're right about being raised outside the norm is different than never fitting into the social world at all. For the former, joining the mainstream seems more appealing because they were sheltered from it and want company with peers. For the latter, they were forced into the mainstream and then want to with draw, for mainstream represents the society that hurt them and rejected them. Mainstream represents bland NPCs. Mainstream represents people who don't think too deeply. Mainstream represents toxic social media. Mainstream represents open offices and arbitrarily changing social norms.
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