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It's in the "stars" (predicting by astrology and other means)
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(09-22-2016, 04:31 AM)Galen Wrote:
(09-22-2016, 04:15 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(09-22-2016, 03:57 AM)Galen Wrote:
(09-22-2016, 03:18 AM)taramarie Wrote: Their leaders however do not know how to run a logical political system. I hear you on having a back up system. I only learned that skill though a few years ago sadly. Reason being that those boomers did not prepare me for what was out there. Being heavily coddled did not help me either. I could not help the way I was raised though. It was a great big knock in the teeth. Especially with the great recession and the earthquakes which have devastated the whole city and some suburbs are now condemned. They are now country side. It has been rough but I have learned gratefully and marched on looking at the positives and blessings along the way. Smile

They have all of the hubris of the GIs with none of the competence.  The Millies are going to learn many things the hard way because of that.  With Millies all I have to do in most cases is let life kick the shit out of them for a few years and then its real easy to get them to wise up.

The next leg down on the Great Recession looks like it will be getting underway shortly because I think the central banks are losing control.  Having half of the Middle East showing up in Europe is pissing off the Germans and the French which historically tends not to end well.  The British have already decided they have had enough and are working on a wall to keep migrants out.  Come to think of it, the the Swedes appear to be getting in touch with their inner Viking.  The migrants had better start behaving themselves before the Germans start getting in touch with their inner Nazi.  Clearly the Germans have lost patience with Merkel.

I don't have to check with the stars to know that Europe will probably close its borders or suffer unrest of the likes they haven't seen in a very long time.  You might want to look at other times large numbers of military age Muslims have showed up.  It could be a replay of the crusades and they just might ask Putin for help in dealing with the problem.
Well I will not judge all boomers for that. I have met some who are very rational and not as blindly idealistic as some seem to be. My thoughts on ideals is that they are fantastic ONLY when realistically achievable. Also I am not favourable of the attitudes of some early boomers who I have met who seem to be the most unrealistic and idealistic who think they have planned out the perfect society for us all and wonder why it will not work when told so even though they are getting hate from all sides. Calmly telling them why it will not work does not seem to work either. It boggles the mind. An ideal should be agreed on by the people and it should be a realistic ideal that the majority agree on and it will only happen when nations are in dire straits. When there is no other option. A rational ideal. I have no patience for childish fantasies that could potentially destroy the economy and the lives of many. Which is why I am not pleased with our govt pushing to increase the amount of refugees into the country. We have enough kiwis struggling let alone letting more in atm. All for the ideal. What about fixing our problems before letting more in! What about us? It is nice and all but this is the worst time for NZ to be letting them in at the moment. I do not think building a wall will keep them out lol. Keeping Muslims out will be near damn impossible. Though many are tightening up on how many people come into the country now. Including NZ. People are furious that both National and Labour (right and left wing main parties) are letting them in. NZ First has been dubbed by some Americans as the rational Trump of NZ. Winston Peters is in a few ways similar but in other ways VERY progressive. Other ways very conservative. But the key is in the name of the party to understanding what he is all about. When times are hard naturally people want to take care of their own first.

I have been playing the odds on Boomers for a long time and I am usually right about what I am dealing with.  You are not wrong about there being exceptions but I don't count on them.

Muslims have been kept out before but the methods have tended to be pretty violent with the survivors taking the hint and going somewhere else.  This usually happens after years and sometimes centuries of provocations.  Check out the history of the Crusades for a more complete description.





Naturally, I would prefer not to see this occur but the possibility can not be ignored.  Always plan for the worst and then be glad when it doesn't happen.
Well if when polled it shows that they have certain regressive beliefs it is worrying. But I would like to see a more in depth poll to see if they would actually go so far to push those beliefs onto others. I do not worry if it is just their own personal beliefs. It is only if it will affect the rest of us to the point it starts to impact politics. I do stand for my freedom and others. I do worry as they tend to have regressive beliefs when it comes to the topic of women. They can believe whatever they want to but I want to know if they would push it onto others the same way some Christians do with their beliefs. THAT is what bothers me most of all.
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(09-22-2016, 04:41 AM)taramarie Wrote: Well if when polled it shows that they have certain regressive beliefs it is worrying. But I would like to see a more in depth poll to see if they would actually go so far to push those beliefs onto others. I do not worry if it is just their own personal beliefs. It is only if it will affect the rest of us to the point it starts to impact politics. I do stand for my freedom and others. I do worry as they tend to have regressive beliefs when it comes to the topic of women. They can believe whatever they want to but I want to know if they would push it onto others the same way some Christians do with their beliefs. THAT is what bothers me most of all.

The polling has been done in Great Britain.  Say what you like about Milo his data is solid.



Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken

If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action.   -- Ludwig von Mises
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(09-22-2016, 04:49 AM)Galen Wrote:
(09-22-2016, 04:41 AM)taramarie Wrote: Well if when polled it shows that they have certain regressive beliefs it is worrying. But I would like to see a more in depth poll to see if they would actually go so far to push those beliefs onto others. I do not worry if it is just their own personal beliefs. It is only if it will affect the rest of us to the point it starts to impact politics. I do stand for my freedom and others. I do worry as they tend to have regressive beliefs when it comes to the topic of women. They can believe whatever they want to but I want to know if they would push it onto others the same way some Christians do with their beliefs. THAT is what bothers me most of all.

The polling has been done in Great Britain.  Say what you like about Milo his data is solid.




Yes you have shown me that poll before. But I would like an even more extensive poll done. Belief systems should remain private for all, not just them. Especially when it comes to politics. As for my opinion on Milo himself. I have none. If he goes by hard facts I respect that.
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#84
(09-22-2016, 04:53 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(09-22-2016, 04:49 AM)Galen Wrote:
(09-22-2016, 04:41 AM)taramarie Wrote: Well if when polled it shows that they have certain regressive beliefs it is worrying. But I would like to see a more in depth poll to see if they would actually go so far to push those beliefs onto others. I do not worry if it is just their own personal beliefs. It is only if it will affect the rest of us to the point it starts to impact politics. I do stand for my freedom and others. I do worry as they tend to have regressive beliefs when it comes to the topic of women. They can believe whatever they want to but I want to know if they would push it onto others the same way some Christians do with their beliefs. THAT is what bothers me most of all.

The polling has been done in Great Britain.  Say what you like about Milo his data is solid.




Yes you have shown me that poll before. But I would like an even more extensive poll done. Belief systems should remain private for all, not just them. Especially when it comes to politics. As for my opinion on Milo himself. I have none. If he goes by hard facts I respect that.

He does do hard facts because that is the only way to understand the problem.  You asked for data and here it is.  Follow the links and it should give you a good picture of how things are unfolding in the UK.
[url=https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey][/url]
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken

If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action.   -- Ludwig von Mises
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#85
(09-22-2016, 05:03 AM)Galen Wrote:
(09-22-2016, 04:53 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(09-22-2016, 04:49 AM)Galen Wrote:
(09-22-2016, 04:41 AM)taramarie Wrote: Well if when polled it shows that they have certain regressive beliefs it is worrying. But I would like to see a more in depth poll to see if they would actually go so far to push those beliefs onto others. I do not worry if it is just their own personal beliefs. It is only if it will affect the rest of us to the point it starts to impact politics. I do stand for my freedom and others. I do worry as they tend to have regressive beliefs when it comes to the topic of women. They can believe whatever they want to but I want to know if they would push it onto others the same way some Christians do with their beliefs. THAT is what bothers me most of all.

The polling has been done in Great Britain.  Say what you like about Milo his data is solid.




Yes you have shown me that poll before. But I would like an even more extensive poll done. Belief systems should remain private for all, not just them. Especially when it comes to politics. As for my opinion on Milo himself. I have none. If he goes by hard facts I respect that.

He does do hard facts because that is the only way to understand the problem.  You asked for data and here it is.  Follow the links and it should give you a good picture of how things are unfolding in the UK.
[url=https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey][/url]
Ah thank you. I will have a look at it tomorrow morning. It is late here and I am very tired. Thank you for the link.
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(09-22-2016, 05:05 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(09-22-2016, 05:03 AM)Galen Wrote:
(09-22-2016, 04:53 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(09-22-2016, 04:49 AM)Galen Wrote:
(09-22-2016, 04:41 AM)taramarie Wrote: Well if when polled it shows that they have certain regressive beliefs it is worrying. But I would like to see a more in depth poll to see if they would actually go so far to push those beliefs onto others. I do not worry if it is just their own personal beliefs. It is only if it will affect the rest of us to the point it starts to impact politics. I do stand for my freedom and others. I do worry as they tend to have regressive beliefs when it comes to the topic of women. They can believe whatever they want to but I want to know if they would push it onto others the same way some Christians do with their beliefs. THAT is what bothers me most of all.

The polling has been done in Great Britain.  Say what you like about Milo his data is solid.




Yes you have shown me that poll before. But I would like an even more extensive poll done. Belief systems should remain private for all, not just them. Especially when it comes to politics. As for my opinion on Milo himself. I have none. If he goes by hard facts I respect that.

He does do hard facts because that is the only way to understand the problem.  You asked for data and here it is.  Follow the links and it should give you a good picture of how things are unfolding in the UK.
[url=https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey][/url]
Ah thank you. I will have a look at it tomorrow morning. It is late here and I am very tired. Thank you for the link.

You're welcome.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken

If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action.   -- Ludwig von Mises
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#87
(09-21-2016, 01:34 AM)taramarie Wrote: Nasa changed our zodiac signs. What does our resident astrologist say to this?

New Zodiac sign

I will tell you this. It is a hoax.
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#88
(09-22-2016, 01:59 PM)naf140230 Wrote:
(09-21-2016, 01:34 AM)taramarie Wrote: Nasa changed our zodiac signs. What does our resident astrologist say to this?

New Zodiac sign

I will tell you this. It is a hoax.

Seeing as I do not believe in zodiac signs anyway this is amusing ^^^^ no you don't say! Big Grin
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#89
NASA Is Not Changing The Signs Of The Zodiac (But Your Horoscope Is Still Meaningless) Big Grin
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#90
It is hard to find the predictions I made in the posts from the archive, lurking among the blizzard of opinions and arguments, but so far I have found one I made for the 2016 election:

Post#749 at 08-05-2015 08:56 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Eric the Green


I don't get why Hillary getting high speaking fees is a no-no. How can Republicans criticize someone for making money, when that is their own chief value in life? Free market, right?

Hillary may not generate enthusiasm in some quarters, like for-example the folks here, but Democrats in general like her a lot, and boy the women will come out for her in droves. Biden is just not popular enough to be an alternative. He doesn't wear well with people.

She is not a shoe-in; she will have bumps in the road, and already has of course. I think she would win against Bush, but admittedly that is as much a hope as a dispassionate look at the cosmic and electoral odds.

Bush and Trump have the best odds of winning the nomination, according to the cosmic indicators. Rubio is my 3rd place bet. Paul will have some longevity. Walker will fade away, and Christie will move up for a while. Christie may get some traction in the debate tomorrow. If Trump has to play nice, that opens the door for Christie to be the charismatic loudmouth instead of Trump. But, don't look for Trump to fall right away. He may actually win the nomination, and give Hillary a run for her money too. Although I am still predicting Bush to win the nomination, Trump actually has slightly better odds from the purely-horoscope perspective. Bush has superior organization and broad popular and establishment support.

Sanders has some chance of knocking off Hillary. Sanders has long odds of beating Bush, but the cosmic indicators actually favor him, and he probably beats Trump too.

I never would have predicted Trump to do well until I saw his horoscope. I changed my mind, and predicted he would do well. Events have proven me right again.
Last edited by Eric the Green; 08-05-2015 at 08:59 PM.
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#91
In July 2015, I wrote:

"If the primaries are indeed to be decided by which candidates have the best scores on my system compared to those who won in the past, regardless of other factors, then it will indeed be Trump vs. Sanders in November 2016."

http://generationaldynamics.com/tftarchi...-00029.htm

I have updated the candidate scores since then, of course. Bush's score in particular went down on my new system, and became slightly negative in fact. But this post was made at a time when Trump and Sanders were dismissed by the pundits as having no chance.

I am still looking for the post later on when I definitely said Trump would be nominated.
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#92
Well, as it turns out, my point system worked (8-4 vs. 12-9, with her score probably to be revised to 12-10 since I factored a Clinton win into the numbers, just for convenience you know), and since Hillary won the popular vote, the New Moon Before Election method worked too, since that's what it indicates. My two main methods for predicting the election worked. But the Jupiter and Saturn patterns failed. Other astrologers suggested other patterns which worked. But I have no idea if they are empirically or statistically significant. Which means I can't be sure any of those patterns, or the Jupiter/Saturn patterns I used, will ever work again. There was also controversy about Hillary's actual birth time, which would have affected those Jupiter and Saturn patterns in her chart. But Saturn transiting at the Nadir of fortune, was not a reliable indicator of a Trump defeat.

My prediction for this election failed, although I had many successes (if you can call predicted wars and economic crashes success). But just what is going on with astrology, I don't know. It was supposed to be my lucky day, by Jove. It certainly isn't.
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#93
(11-09-2016, 02:14 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Well, as it turns out, my point system worked (8-4 vs. 12-9, with her score probably to be revised to 12-10 since I factored a Clinton win into the numbers, just for convenience you know), and since Hillary won the popular vote, the New Moon Before Election method worked too, since that's what it indicates. My two main methods for predicting the election worked. But the Jupiter and Saturn patterns failed. Other astrologers suggested other patterns which worked. But I have no idea if they are empirically or statistically significant. Which means I can't be sure any of those patterns, or the Jupiter/Saturn patterns I used, will ever work again. There was also controversy about Hillary's actual birth time, which would have affected those Jupiter and Saturn patterns in her chart. But Saturn transiting at the Nadir of fortune, was not a reliable indicator of a Trump defeat.

My prediction for this election failed, although I had many successes (if you can call predicted wars and economic crashes success). But just what is going on with astrology, I don't know. It was supposed to be my lucky day, by Jove. It certainly isn't.

Even the most accurate psychics and astrologers make mistakes. By the way, what do you predict will happen in 2017? This is especially important since Trump was elected.
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(11-12-2016, 07:01 PM)naf140230 Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 02:14 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Well, as it turns out, my point system worked (8-4 vs. 12-9, with her score probably to be revised to 12-10 since I factored a Clinton win into the numbers, just for convenience you know), and since Hillary won the popular vote, the New Moon Before Election method worked too, since that's what it indicates. My two main methods for predicting the election worked. But the Jupiter and Saturn patterns failed. Other astrologers suggested other patterns which worked. But I have no idea if they are empirically or statistically significant. Which means I can't be sure any of those patterns, or the Jupiter/Saturn patterns I used, will ever work again. There was also controversy about Hillary's actual birth time, which would have affected those Jupiter and Saturn patterns in her chart. But Saturn transiting at the Nadir of fortune, was not a reliable indicator of a Trump defeat.

My prediction for this election failed, although I had many successes (if you can call predicted wars and economic crashes success). But just what is going on with astrology, I don't know. It was supposed to be my lucky day, by Jove. It certainly isn't.

Even the most accurate psychics and astrologers make mistakes. By the way, what do you predict will happen in 2017? This is especially important since Trump was elected.


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Mary, Mary, I have cast all the charts already........

I had some hopes that 2017 would see some breakthroughs for peace and justice in the lands where revolutions had broken out under the Uranus-Pluto square of 2011, and more movements for freedom. But the election of Trump has thrown a monkey wrench into everything. I can't have any trust in my prediction for that now. The USA was supposed to facilitate this. That won't happen now.

Another astrologer who predicted Trump would win, focused on another set of aspects in 2017 than I did. From what I remember, he predicted a lot more turmoil for the year 2017, not peace and justice. That is based on Jupiter joining the Uranus-Pluto square again in its waning year. Since Jupiter means religion, I suspect we'll get more Moslem terrorist outbreaks. But in 2014, in the Spring, this same aspect brought us the Islamic State conquests and the Ukraine Revolution and Russian incursions. That one included a stationary Mars, though, in a grand cross; so this time I don't think it will be as catastrophic as in 2014. Instead, the war on ISIS seems to be in its final stages. But if it's not finished before Trump gets in, I don't know what will happen. He would probably screw the whole thing up and it would just continue indefinitely.

Since Jupiter in Libra represent alliances, I suspect Trump will have fun blowing up some this year. And having fun with Putin, who is a Libra.

Honestly, anyone who is NOT freaking out after Trump's election, isn't paying attention. I have already pointed this out to you, Marypoza.
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#96
I heard the historian scholar crow about his successful prediction from the 13 keys. But he always fails to mention that he was wrong in 2000; he had predicted the popular vote winner successfully that year, but not who assumed the presidency. The media never calls him on this either. By that measure, he was wrong this year too, and I was right.
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#97
(11-12-2016, 11:59 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I heard the historian scholar crow about his successful prediction from the 13 keys. But he always fails to mention that he was wrong in 2000; he had predicted the popular vote winner successfully that year, but not who assumed the presidency. The media never calls him on this either. By that measure, he was wrong this year too, and I was right.

If its who I think it is then he claims an eighty-five percent success rate which is way better than you have ever been.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken

If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action.   -- Ludwig von Mises
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#98
He claims 100% success rate, that's the point. I never hear him mention his failure in 2000, except very briefly and no-one calls him on it. If you listen carefully though, he claims that he predicted "the popular vote" in every election. By that measure, he missed the electoral vote in 2000 and the popular vote itself in 2016.

It makes it easy in our age when the difference occurs more often, to claim victory if either the electoral or the popular vote predicted correctly means you are going to be right either way.

The new moon method I invented predicts the popular vote, and I have used it since 2004 without fail. 100%. The record of my methods is shown in my article, which I'm sure you didn't read. It shows how often my methods have worked going back into the 18th and 19th centuries.
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#99
I just thought of this. One of the articles on your website said "People may be disillusioned, causing them to retreat again into conservatism." That might have just happened with this election.
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Yes it might. The 2010s are part of a 30-year pattern of conservative policies, despite Obama's brief one-year reign.

I can't deny that I was wrong about this election, about who would win in November. And I can't deny that my bias might have contributed to my error. There's certainly no doubt that I am biased, and it's not always easy to put it aside.

Astrologers disagree about Hillary Clinton's birthtime, and they disagreed about who would win too. I chose the birthtime that was most advantageous for her to win, using the patterns that I saw that had some empirical basis and had mostly worked in the past, as opposed to other patterns that astrologers mention that I found not to be consistent over time.

I have to admit, even so, that the birthtime I chose, which is the most-accepted one, still seems to fit her life and personality better than the others. But we have no birth certificate, so it's all based on hearsay and conflicting testimony from Hillary herself.

If the birthtime I used was wrong, though, then it invalidated the patterns I used to predict her victory.

The parallel to 1908 was compelling, and I cannot explain how Taft was elected and Hillary was not, unless in fact Hillary does not have Jupiter rising in her chart. Without that, her horoscope score is definitely inferior to Donald Trump's. And now that the electoral college has become the way that Republicans win elections, and the new moon method's record is a much tighter indicator if it is seen ONLY as predicting the popular vote (as it did in 2000 and 2016, as well as 1888 and 1876), the main factor in Hillary's favor (the new moon before election) did not indicate victory in the electoral college, but only the prevailing sentiment and vote of the people of the USA.

So I was wrong, but critics like Galen put no attention on my many correct predictions over the years. Another poster here named Teddy challenged me by listing his pick of the most significant events of the last few decades. I had predicted half of them. That's likely more than any prophet of any kind. The big things, I got right, most of the time. Those like Galen who say that because I got this one wrong, I never get anything right, forget that I also predicted here Trump's nomination and Bernie's strong run long before anyone else did.

So where my presidential election method goes from here, is not clear at all. If the Democrats nominate a weak candidate like Tim Kaine, they will lose in 2020. If Bernie Sanders runs and is nominated, they have a shot if Trump screws up his term. I can't say that he will win.

Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions every 20 years are a factor in 2020. Since 1841 they have indicated a change in the party in power in the zero year, an assassination or death in office of the person elected then, or both.

But since the assassination/death pattern appears to be over, the relevant statistic is that 7 out of 11 times, and 8 out of 13 since 1800, it has indicated a change in the party in control of the White House. That is far from a reliable pattern, but it could be a factor. No doubt however, the momentum and direction of the Establishment and world events shifts radically upon this conjunction, every time.
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