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Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can!
(05-03-2019, 04:28 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-02-2019, 01:40 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(04-30-2019, 06:59 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Dude, any gun/weapon can be used strictly for defense. Guns/ weapons  aren't for offensive use only as you say.

Weapons of war are not just any weapon.  They are designed to kill or permanently disable opposing forces -- military forces.  Some punk down at the beer hall or even a guy trying a home invasion can be stopped will much less savagery, with the rest handled by law enforcement.

FWIW, you shouldn't have a streetsweeper shotgun either -- unless you are controlling a mass riot or storming an urban center.

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Who do you think would win the gun fight? The one armed with a street sweeper or an American group armed with semi automatic shotguns?

One flamethrower, one airstrike with an effective missile, or even one well-thrown grenade would decide it all.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(05-03-2019, 07:15 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(05-03-2019, 04:28 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-02-2019, 01:40 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(04-30-2019, 06:59 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Dude, any gun/weapon can be used strictly for defense. Guns/ weapons  aren't for offensive use only as you say.

Weapons of war are not just any weapon.  They are designed to kill or permanently disable opposing forces -- military forces.  Some punk down at the beer hall or even a guy trying a home invasion can be stopped will much less savagery, with the rest handled by law enforcement.

FWIW, you shouldn't have a streetsweeper shotgun either -- unless you are controlling a mass riot or storming an urban center.

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Who do you think would win the gun fight? The one armed with a street sweeper or an American group armed with semi automatic shotguns?

One flamethrower, one airstrike with an effective missile, or even one well-thrown grenade would decide it all.

Whichever side commands the armed forces will win.
If a rebel side wishes to win, it will have to organize a state and field a superior army. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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(05-03-2019, 04:05 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-03-2019, 12:34 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(05-01-2019, 10:27 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(04-29-2019, 10:58 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(04-29-2019, 07:26 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: The word immigrant no longer applies to most American citizens these days. Yes, there was a time when most Americans where immigrants like a hundred and fifty years ago on my fathers side and well over two hundred years ago on my mothers side. I dunno, I hope we don't see the day when Mexican Americans naturally divide or split between those who still primarily identify as Mexicans and those who primarily identify as Americans. I think things are going to get ugly if the current negative crap that's going on with the liberals these days continues. I'd say the reason we're seeing so many asylum seekers coming in mass is because the global blues understand that the good old days of taking advantage of America is on the verge of coming to an end. I like what Trump threatened to do about the illegal immigrant issue. Hell, I suggested doing something similar myself a while ago. Of coarse, he's not suggesting to remove your border security personnel and eliminate your boarder walls like me. He's just suggesting the idea of busing them in mass and releasing them in blue areas like yours for the blues to deal with right now. Like I've said, Trump is willing to give the bluer American folks a chance to prove themselves to the rest of America at this point. I've already told you that I'm not going to be there to save you or defend you when things start getting rough in blue areas.

Immigrants 100 or 150 years ago, and immigrants today. No difference. We are a nation of immigrants. Our history, our heritage, our essence, is one of immigrants coming to this land. Republicans shot down reforms that would have smoothed out the system, preferring fear and prejudice. Now they are reaping the consequences. The more Trump threatens to "end" the "good old days of taking advantage of America," the more they come, because we fail to help those people to rid themselves of their banana republic system and continue through our support for climate change to ruin their lands.

You have your own challenge in Minnesota, because you have not yet managed to turn your state red. It's probably going back to its long-time blue heritage now, which has brought it such benefits.

Interestingly, I was reading about the global warming episode 56 million years ago called The Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum (PETM) https://www.wunderground.com/climate/PETM a fascinating episode in Earth history when to adapt many mammals including our ancestors moved north to colder regions. Today's Republican-caused global warming is heating up the planet 10 times faster, and probably farther than the PETM (which started from a much warmer base climate), and now too humans are adapting by fleeing the tropical drought-stricken areas and moving north. You Classic Xer cannot stop the whirlwind of global migration, which your Reaganomics policies have caused because they stopped the needed regulations to encourage and bring about the transition to an economy that emits less greenhouse gases.
Immigrants applied to those who arrived 150 years ago, and US citizens applied to all the American generations who were born after them.


Arbitrary definition. Americans are all immigrants. Ultimately, everyone not of African descent and living in Africa is an immigrant. Similarly, immigrants arriving today will be the parents of US citizens in the future. Same deal. The idea of first come first grab is no idea that gives you any moral authority over more-recent immigrants. Human beings move around on this planet, and have for at least 50,000 years.
Well, I don't care if you still identify with being an immigrant and still view yourself as being one today. However, I'm pretty sure that you still have legal documentation that proves that you're an American citizen and separates you from the legal immigrants and the illegal immigrants as well if needed or required by others as proof. Now, if I understand that there's a difference and you understand that there's a difference then I don't what the problem is other than the obvious differences between our interests today. Yes, Americans are all related to legal immigration from some other place (country or continent) and human migration from some other land mass or continent that took place around 50,000 years ago. BTW, you don't think all those leftist revolutions and civil wars fought between leftists and fascist like dictatorships during the 70's and 80's has had anything to do with the wide scale poverty and lack of social stability and government inability and lawlessness  that they've been experiencing for a few decades.


The accident of where you were born at a particular time is the only difference. As far as being human and deserving of respect and fair treatment is concerned, I don't see that this makes a difference.

The widespread poverty and instability of certain lands south of the border is due to the rulership of banana bosses supported by American corporations and American or American-trained military and death squads. Failure of revolutions against those dictatorships, not the revolutions themselves, is responsible for those problems.

I don't base my entire view of history on labels. Quite a few regimes called "leftist" have been harmful and oppressive. It depends on the behavior of those regimes, and how much freedom and prosperity they bring through policies that help the people, whether they lead to an exodus or not. Trickle-down economics that benefits only rich landowners and foreign corporations, such as you advocate, does not help the people, any more than an oiligarchic kleptocracy like Venezuela or a tyrannical communist monarchy like North Korea helps the people.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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The sacrilege is to still have faith in this President:

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I do not accuse the President of sorcery.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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He does exercize a spell over his audience. He is a skilled black magician in that respect.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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Very funny. "Like" And they both know how to quack.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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Really, about those who still believe in The Donald:

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Occam's razor, anyone?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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From 28 years ago:

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A reminder: in the three states in which Donald Trump is best known, he was defeated by the sixth (NY), tenth (NJ), and eleventh (CT) largest margins.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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In economic news:

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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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Christians should know this reference:

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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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haha. The truth checks in, but it doesn't check out!
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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(05-24-2019, 10:23 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: haha. The truth checks in, but it doesn't check out!

So close, yet so far away.

It's  "The truth can check out any time it likes but it can never leave." Hotel California and Trump International Hotel prolly have some ghastly ghoulies for some set of folks or another.
---Value Added Cool
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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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Marx had an idea from the confusion of his head,
Then there were a thousand more waiting to be led.
The books are sold, the quotes are bought,
You learn them well and then you're caught.
Anothers left, anothers right,
Anothers peace, anothers fight.

Mussolini had an idea from the confusion of his heart,
Then there were a thousand more waiting to play their part.
The stage was set, the costumes worn
And anothers empire of destruction born.
Anothers name, anothers aim,
Anothers fall, anothers fame.

Jung had an idea from the confusion of his dream,
Then there were a thousand more waiting to be seen.
You're not yourself the theory says,
But I can help, your complex pays.
Anothers hope, anothers game,
Anothers loss, anothers gain.
Sartre had an idea from the confusion of his brain,
Then there were a thousand more indulging in his pain,
Revelling in isolation and existential choice;
Can you trully be alone when you use anothers voice?
Anothers lies, anothers truth,
Anothers doubt, anothers proof.

The idea born in someones mind
Is nurtured by a thousand blind
Anonymous beings, vacuous souls,
Do you fear the confusion, your lack of control?
You lift your arm to write a name,
So caught up in the identity game.
Who do you see? Who do you watch?
Who do you watch? Who do you watch?
Who's your leader? Which is your flock?
Who's your leader? Which is your flock?

Einsten had an idea from the confusion of his knowledge,
Then there were a thousand more turning to advantage.
They realised that their god was dead,
So they reclaimed power through the bomb instead.
Anothers code, anothers brain,
They'll shower us all in deadly rain,

Jesus had an idea from the confusion of his soul,
Then there were a thousand more waiting to take control.
The guilt is sold, forgiveness bought,
The cross is there as your reward.
Anothers love, anothers pain,
Anothers pride, anothers shame.

Do you watch at a distance from the side you have chosen?
Whose answers serve you best? Who'll save you from confusion?
Who will leave you an exit and a comfortable cover?
Who will take you so near their edge, but never drop you over?
Who do you watch? Who do you watch?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7D9aoq6wfc
There was never any good old days
They are today, they are tomorrow
It's a stupid thing we say
Cursing tomorrow with sorrow
       -- Eugene Hutz
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(my attempt to imitate the preachy introductions to The Twilight Zone by Rod Serling)...

So what happens when people forget what they learn in high school civics? They sacrifice their essential liberty for vague promises of revenge, economic gain, and national greatness from someone who short-circuits rule of law and checks and balances that are all that keep a heritage of democracy into dictatorship and despotism. They get a demagogue no better as President than he was as a businessman.  They get someone who admires foreign dictators more than he admires Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt (both of them). He lies, he cheats, and he steals.

People have gotten leaders like him in the past, and the result has never been good whether the leader is a socialist or a fascist.

Vote for someone like this pitiable fellow and your country ends up in The Twilight Zone.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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