Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can!

[pbrower2a]

Christians should know this reference:

[pbrower2a]

[pbrower2a]

[Eric the Green]

haha. The truth checks in, but it doesn't check out!

[Ragnarök_62]

(05-24-2019, 10:23 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: haha. The truth checks in, but it doesn't check out!

So close, yet so far away.

It's  "The truth can check out any time it likes but it can never leave." Hotel California and Trump International Hotel prolly have some ghastly ghoulies for some set of folks or another.

[pbrower2a]

[Skabungus]

Marx had an idea from the confusion of his head,
Then there were a thousand more waiting to be led.
The books are sold, the quotes are bought,
You learn them well and then you're caught.
Anothers left, anothers right,
Anothers peace, anothers fight.

Mussolini had an idea from the confusion of his heart,
Then there were a thousand more waiting to play their part.
The stage was set, the costumes worn
And anothers empire of destruction born.
Anothers name, anothers aim,
Anothers fall, anothers fame.

Jung had an idea from the confusion of his dream,
Then there were a thousand more waiting to be seen.
You're not yourself the theory says,
But I can help, your complex pays.
Anothers hope, anothers game,
Anothers loss, anothers gain.
Sartre had an idea from the confusion of his brain,
Then there were a thousand more indulging in his pain,
Revelling in isolation and existential choice;
Can you trully be alone when you use anothers voice?
Anothers lies, anothers truth,
Anothers doubt, anothers proof.

The idea born in someones mind
Is nurtured by a thousand blind
Anonymous beings, vacuous souls,
Do you fear the confusion, your lack of control?
You lift your arm to write a name,
So caught up in the identity game.
Who do you see? Who do you watch?
Who do you watch? Who do you watch?
Who's your leader? Which is your flock?
Who's your leader? Which is your flock?

Einsten had an idea from the confusion of his knowledge,
Then there were a thousand more turning to advantage.
They realised that their god was dead,
So they reclaimed power through the bomb instead.
Anothers code, anothers brain,
They'll shower us all in deadly rain,

Jesus had an idea from the confusion of his soul,
Then there were a thousand more waiting to take control.
The guilt is sold, forgiveness bought,
The cross is there as your reward.
Anothers love, anothers pain,
Anothers pride, anothers shame.

Do you watch at a distance from the side you have chosen?
Whose answers serve you best? Who'll save you from confusion?
Who will leave you an exit and a comfortable cover?
Who will take you so near their edge, but never drop you over?
Who do you watch? Who do you watch?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7D9aoq6wfc

[pbrower2a]

(my attempt to imitate the preachy introductions to The Twilight Zone by Rod Serling)...

So what happens when people forget what they learn in high school civics? They sacrifice their essential liberty for vague promises of revenge, economic gain, and national greatness from someone who short-circuits rule of law and checks and balances that are all that keep a heritage of democracy into dictatorship and despotism. They get a demagogue no better as President than he was as a businessman.  They get someone who admires foreign dictators more than he admires Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt (both of them). He lies, he cheats, and he steals.

People have gotten leaders like him in the past, and the result has never been good whether the leader is a socialist or a fascist.

Vote for someone like this pitiable fellow and your country ends up in The Twilight Zone.

[gabrielle]

Projected on Madame Tussaud's during Our Very Stable Genius's visit to London. 

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/113...t-trump%2F

[David Horn]

(06-03-2019, 10:00 PM)gabrielle Wrote:

Projected on Madame Tussaud's during Our Very Stable Genius's visit to London. 

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/113...t-trump%2F

Clearly, fake news.

[pbrower2a]

The Royals seem not to be enjoying themselves with their current guests.


(CNN)At a grand banquet table in a red-carpeted Buckingham Palace ballroom, the Queen, a couple of princes, dukes and duchesses, and lords and ladies were intermixed with the Trump family: a President, a first lady, four of his five children, and two of their spouses.
Queen Elizabeth II formally invited just President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump to travel to London for an official State Banquet at Buckingham Palace. But the event became more of an extended family affair, with Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and his wife Lara, and Tiffany Trump all joining the exclusive party.

The President's eldest daughter, Ivanka Trump, was already set to attend in her capacity as a formal adviser to the President, and a senior member of his administration. Her husband, Jared Kushner, is also part of the United States delegation attending the ceremonial events.


For the President, bringing his adult children, in his view, is akin to showcasing his version of royalty. In an interview ahead of the trip with the British tabloid newspaper The Sun, Trump said he wanted Ivanka, Donald Jr., Eric and Tiffany to hold a "next generation" meeting with the Prince William and his wife, Kate, and Prince Harry.

"I think my children will be meeting them," said Trump. "It would be nice."

(that is really a choice for the House of Windsor, so far as I am concerned --pbrower2a).

Though they mingled at the State Banquet, there were no plans for a sit-down meeting, a royal source told CNN International correspondent Max Foster. They did, however, join their father for his joint news conference with Prime Minister Theresa May, and later toured the Churchill War Rooms, according to their social media posts.

Trump ran in the 2016 presidential race promising to "drain the swamp" and railing against political establishment at every turn, particularly his GOP primary rival Jeb Bush, the brother of one American president and son of another.
But since taking office, he elevated his daughter and son-in-law to two of the highest-ranking appointments inside the West Wing. He even suggested that she could hold public office herself after he leaves office.

"If she ever wanted to run for president," the President said this year, "I think she'd be very, very hard to beat."

(the wrong time and place for pushing a daugher's political career -- my comment)

But that his daughter hasn't expressed any interest in running to him. For now, she continues her work on largely noncontroversial West Wing portfolio and style herself as a diplomat on the world stage. On Tuesday, she appeared alongside her father at a business roundtable and bilateral meetings with May as part of the official US delegation.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/...index.html

[pbrower2a]

Speaking of the Royals:

[John J. Xenakis]

** 06-Jun-2019 MS-NBC and Trump

I've been watching MS-NBC for the last half hour or so, and the
guests have been speaking cordially about Trump, and praising
his "you're the pride of our nation" speech at the D-day commemoration.

It's such a pleasure to see this, and gives me hope that there
are people on the left who aren't complete idiots 100% of the time.

Oooops. MS-NBC has just turned to the impeachment issue and
Nancy Pelosi saying that Trump should be in jail.

Well, it was really nice while it lasted.

---- Source:

-- 'You're the pride of our nation,' Donald Trump tells veterans on
75th D-Day anniversary in Normandy
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...359059001/
(USA Today)

[David Horn]

(06-06-2019, 09:30 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 06-Jun-2019 MS-NBC and Trump

I've been watching MS-NBC for the last half hour or so, and the guests have been speaking cordially about Trump, and praising his "you're the pride of our nation" speech at the D-day commemoration.

It's such a pleasure to see this, and gives me hope that there are people on the left who aren't complete idiots 100% of the time.

Oooops. MS-NBC has just turned to the impeachment issue and Nancy Pelosi saying that Trump should be in jail.

Well, it was really nice while it lasted.

When nearly 1,000 career prosecutors sign a letter stating that Trump is blatantly guilty of obstruction of justice, why is impeachment not being demanded?  William Weld, who resigned from the Nixon Justice Department over similar offenses, was not only one of the signatories, but baffled that this has taken so long to be raised.  If the man is guilty, and appearances say yes indeed, then the clock needs to start now or nothing gets done until after the next election.

And yes, Trump managed to give a good speech.  That this is considered news is a sad commentary on our politics.

[pbrower2a]

(06-06-2019, 09:59 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(06-06-2019, 09:30 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 06-Jun-2019 MS-NBC and Trump

I've been watching MS-NBC for the last half hour or so, and the guests have been speaking cordially about Trump, and praising his "you're the pride of our nation" speech at the D-day commemoration.

It's such a pleasure to see this, and gives me hope that there are people on the left who aren't complete idiots 100% of the time.

Oooops. MS-NBC has just turned to the impeachment issue and Nancy Pelosi saying that Trump should be in jail.

Well, it was really nice while it lasted.

When nearly 1,000 career prosecutors sign a letter stating that Trump is blatantly guilty of obstruction of justice, why is impeachment not being demanded?  William Weld, who resigned from the Nixon Justice Department over similar offenses, was not only one of the signatories, but baffled that this has taken so long to be raised.  If the man is guilty, and appearances say yes indeed, then the clock needs to start now or nothing gets done until after the next election.

And yes, Trump managed to give a good speech.  That this is considered news is a sad commentary on our politics.

I missed the speech...

We are not out of line in insisting that our political leaders live up to high ethical standards. In such a profession as medicine or law one can be ousted for grossly-unethical behavior. The Armed Services insist that their cadets and even their ninety-day wonders develop character that makes them trustworthy with soldiers, sailors, and airmen -- and some expensive materiel -- in combat.

We ideally elect people better than ourselves. Many of us must make compromises in the name of economic survival, as among those who sell high-ticket items. Much of our economy depends upon people selling cars, houses, furniture, and appliances, all with the aid of puffing. But the hustle is not everything.

Donald Trump is a hustler, and we have come to see where that leads.

[Eric the Green]

(06-06-2019, 01:40 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(06-06-2019, 09:59 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(06-06-2019, 09:30 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 06-Jun-2019 MS-NBC and Trump

I've been watching MS-NBC for the last half hour or so, and the guests have been speaking cordially about Trump, and praising his "you're the pride of our nation" speech at the D-day commemoration.

It's such a pleasure to see this, and gives me hope that there are people on the left who aren't complete idiots 100% of the time.

Oooops. MS-NBC has just turned to the impeachment issue and Nancy Pelosi saying that Trump should be in jail.

Well, it was really nice while it lasted.

When nearly 1,000 career prosecutors sign a letter stating that Trump is blatantly guilty of obstruction of justice, why is impeachment not being demanded?  William Weld, who resigned from the Nixon Justice Department over similar offenses, was not only one of the signatories, but baffled that this has taken so long to be raised.  If the man is guilty, and appearances say yes indeed, then the clock needs to start now or nothing gets done until after the next election.

And yes, Trump managed to give a good speech.  That this is considered news is a sad commentary on our politics.

I missed the speech...

We are not out of line in insisting that our political leaders live up to high ethical standards. In such a profession as medicine or law one can be ousted for grossly-unethical behavior. The Armed Services insist that their cadets and even their ninety-day wonders develop character that makes them trustworthy with soldiers, sailors, and airmen -- and some expensive materiel -- in combat.

We ideally elect people better than ourselves. Many of us must make compromises in the name of economic survival, as among those who sell high-ticket items. Much of our economy depends upon people selling cars, houses, furniture, and appliances, all with the aid of puffing. But the hustle is not everything.

Donald Trump is a hustler, and we have come to see where that leads.

Few ever said that Trump could not speak well. Not in an erudite or intelligent way, perhaps, but in a way that can connect and dramatize well. He IS a skilled demagogue and a TV star, and that requires show-biz talent. So he can give a good speech as president once in a while, and praise the heroes of the America he wants to "make great again" and espouse patriotism and all that boring stuff. Too bad that's about all he does well. It was enough to fool the American people, but that's not real hard to do.

[beechnut79]

(06-06-2019, 03:19 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(06-06-2019, 01:40 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(06-06-2019, 09:59 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(06-06-2019, 09:30 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 06-Jun-2019 MS-NBC and Trump

I've been watching MS-NBC for the last half hour or so, and the guests have been speaking cordially about Trump, and praising his "you're the pride of our nation" speech at the D-day commemoration.

It's such a pleasure to see this, and gives me hope that there are people on the left who aren't complete idiots 100% of the time.

Oooops. MS-NBC has just turned to the impeachment issue and Nancy Pelosi saying that Trump should be in jail.

Well, it was really nice while it lasted.

When nearly 1,000 career prosecutors sign a letter stating that Trump is blatantly guilty of obstruction of justice, why is impeachment not being demanded?  William Weld, who resigned from the Nixon Justice Department over similar offenses, was not only one of the signatories, but baffled that this has taken so long to be raised.  If the man is guilty, and appearances say yes indeed, then the clock needs to start now or nothing gets done until after the next election.

And yes, Trump managed to give a good speech.  That this is considered news is a sad commentary on our politics.

I missed the speech...

We are not out of line in insisting that our political leaders live up to high ethical standards. In such a profession as medicine or law one can be ousted for grossly-unethical behavior. The Armed Services insist that their cadets and even their ninety-day wonders develop character that makes them trustworthy with soldiers, sailors, and airmen -- and some expensive materiel -- in combat.

We ideally elect people better than ourselves. Many of us must make compromises in the name of economic survival, as among those who sell high-ticket items. Much of our economy depends upon people selling cars, houses, furniture, and appliances, all with the aid of puffing. But the hustle is not everything.

Donald Trump is a hustler, and we have come to see where that leads.

Few ever said that Trump could not speak well. Not in an erudite or intelligent way, perhaps, but in a way that can connect and dramatize well. He IS a skilled demagogue and a TV star, and that requires show-biz talent. So he can give a good speech as president once in a while, and praise the heroes of the America he wants to "make great again" and espouse patriotism and all that boring stuff. Too bad that's about all he does well. It was enough to fool the American people, but that's not real hard to do.

Where fooling the people is concerned, he joins an impressive roster which includes the likes of Fidel Castro and Adolf Hitler. The former was originally considered a "good guy" who we helped attain power before his true colors surfaced; the latter was originally thought of as only a "minor nuisance".

[pbrower2a]

(06-06-2019, 05:04 PM)beechnut79 Wrote:

(06-06-2019, 03:19 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Few ever said that Trump could not speak well. Not in an erudite or intelligent way, perhaps, but in a way that can connect and dramatize well. He IS a skilled demagogue and a TV star, and that requires show-biz talent. So he can give a good speech as president once in a while, and praise the heroes of the America he wants to "make great again" and espouse patriotism and all that boring stuff. Too bad that's about all he does well. It was enough to fool the American people, but that's not real hard to do.

Where fooling the people is concerned, he joins an impressive roster which includes the likes of Fidel Castro and Adolf Hitler. The former was originally considered a "good guy" who we helped attain power before his true colors surfaced; the latter was originally thought of as only a "minor nuisance".

Bingo -- both Hitler and Castro were self-righteous demagogues nearly devoid of moral compass. Both loved the limelight of making speeches  that allegedly excited audiences. To be sure, Trump does his speaking before picked audiences that show signs of adulating him, and the audiences are getting smaller. Castro had children who knew no better bused in to cheer him.

All three addressed the viscera, so to speak. The difference is that Trump has not shut down his opposition. He may want to, but he can't. It took a while for people like Charlie Chaplin and the Three Stooges to mock Hitler... but not Trump.

In America, if Trump hurts one, one either laughs or cries. And this is as the greatest generation of comedians in history (the Silent, like the recently-departed Tim Conway) either die off or quit doing comedy.

[Hintergrund]

Castro made the longest speeches ever... is there a bigger narcissist in the world?

[pbrower2a]

(06-12-2019, 08:53 PM)Hintergrund Wrote: Castro made the longest speeches ever... is there a bigger narcissist in the world?

Were it not for narcissism, practically all political life would stop.

But yes, Castro was a big narcissist. I would guess that other venues full of narcissists include stage and screen (including, worst of all, televangelists), professional sports, art, and corporate bureaucracies.