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First Turning "purge"
#41
(11-08-2019, 07:47 AM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(11-03-2019, 10:16 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(11-03-2019, 01:01 PM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(11-15-2018, 04:15 PM)beechnut79 Wrote:
(11-15-2018, 04:06 PM)Marypoza Wrote: --- l just wish they'd purge Miz Nancy. We need fresh blood. Ain't gonna happen tho

ps, Toyz R Us is coming back

Purges have already started. We certainly can consider the likes of Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein and others has having been purged in the advent of the #MeToo movement. Yes, their behavior was horrible. Pointing this out as perhaps a preview of things to come in other arenas.

This rather sounds as if the lefties/feminists were winning.
If they are telling the truth it would be a good thing. Context is king of course.

It seems the were right about some rapists. Doesn't mean that anything any feminist ever said was right.
Depends on what type of feminist you are speaking of.
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#42
It might be possible to discount one allegation as "he said/she said", but a systematic pattern of accusations is a different matter.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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#43
(04-12-2019, 11:51 AM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: Yes, we can expect a speculative boom during the next 3T.   The greedy won't let dusty old history get in their way.  Others will be naive, and easy to con because they have no personal memories of such a period.

Michio Kaku (who's field is actually physics, not economics) described this cycle.  He indicated that these speculative booms are spaced roughly a life time apart.

Physicist? Chemists did much to turn economics into a science at the University of California at Berkeley by applying mathematical models applicable to chemistry and thermodynamics  to economics. Thermodynamics is borderline between chemistry and physics. 

If you are a clumsy lab technician in chemistry you just might find economics more to your liking.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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#44
(11-09-2019, 02:00 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(11-08-2019, 07:47 AM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(11-03-2019, 10:16 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(11-03-2019, 01:01 PM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(11-15-2018, 04:15 PM)beechnut79 Wrote: Purges have already started. We certainly can consider the likes of Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein and others has having been purged in the advent of the #MeToo movement. Yes, their behavior was horrible. Pointing this out as perhaps a preview of things to come in other arenas.

This rather sounds as if the lefties/feminists were winning.
If they are telling the truth it would be a good thing. Context is king of course.

It seems the were right about some rapists. Doesn't mean that anything any feminist ever said was right.
Depends on what type of feminist you are speaking of.

Yeah, there are many types. One I don't like is e.g. Lena Dunham, sorry for mentioning her.
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#45
(11-11-2019, 05:48 AM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(11-09-2019, 02:00 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(11-08-2019, 07:47 AM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(11-03-2019, 10:16 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(11-03-2019, 01:01 PM)Hintergrund Wrote: This rather sounds as if the lefties/feminists were winning.
If they are telling the truth it would be a good thing. Context is king of course.

It seems the were right about some rapists. Doesn't mean that anything any feminist ever said was right.
Depends on what type of feminist you are speaking of.

Yeah, there are many types. One I don't like is e.g. Lena Dunham, sorry for mentioning her.
Any particular reasons for her specifically?
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#46
(11-11-2019, 05:56 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(11-11-2019, 05:48 AM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(11-09-2019, 02:00 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(11-08-2019, 07:47 AM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(11-03-2019, 10:16 PM)taramarie Wrote: If they are telling the truth it would be a good thing. Context is king of course.

It seems the were right about some rapists. Doesn't mean that anything any feminist ever said was right.
Depends on what type of feminist you are speaking of.

Yeah, there are many types. One I don't like is e.g. Lena Dunham, sorry for mentioning her.
Any particular reasons for her specifically?

One reason's enough: As she wrote herself in her autobiography, she touched her baby sister inappropriately, to put it midly. She is so rotten she can't even see anything wrong with that.
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#47
(11-11-2019, 06:18 AM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(11-11-2019, 05:56 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(11-11-2019, 05:48 AM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(11-09-2019, 02:00 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(11-08-2019, 07:47 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: It seems the were right about some rapists. Doesn't mean that anything any feminist ever said was right.
Depends on what type of feminist you are speaking of.

Yeah, there are many types. One I don't like is e.g. Lena Dunham, sorry for mentioning her.
Any particular reasons for her specifically?

One reason's enough: As she wrote herself in her autobiography, she touched her baby sister inappropriately, to put it midly. She is so rotten she can't even see anything wrong with that.
She what?! OMG.
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#48
Indeed.
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#49
(11-11-2019, 06:30 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: Indeed.

All I need is a few minutes alone with her for doing that. I was a victim of that myself, so you can imagine how I feel about that sort of thing. I was 5 when it happened to me, and it did till I was bleeding and injured "down there." What a BIIIIITCH.
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#50
You'd be 100% justified to do so.
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#51
In recent times throughout the West, the "enemy" is being described as those who are “White Supremacists" or the "Alt-Right" or even "Nationalists" or 'Populists".  Also, it is increasingly likely that groups such as Men’s Rights Activists and ‘Incels’ are being part of the ‘Enemy’.

Also, I am increasingly convinced, that the new version of McCarthyism that will come in the 1T will make the original like a walk in the park. Especially if these groups start insurrections and low scale civil wars similar to the Troubles were for Northern Ireland. Indeed these groups are trying their hardest currently to achieve exactly that.
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#52
In recent times throughout the West, the "enemy" is being described as those who are “White Supremacists" or the "Alt-Right" or even "Nationalists" or 'Populists".  Also, it is increasingly likely that groups such as Men’s Rights Activists and ‘Incels’ are being part of the ‘Enemy’.

Also, I am increasingly convinced, that the new version of McCarthyism that will come in the 1T will make the original like a walk in the park. Especially if these groups start insurrections and low scale civil wars similar to the Troubles were for Northern Ireland. Indeed these groups are trying their hardest currently to achieve exactly that.
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#53
Western Christian Civilization had a huge problem with white supremacists in the last Crisis Era -- literal Nazis. For a short time in the 1920's (which was before the Crisis) many Americans had a dalliance with the KKK.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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#54
(11-11-2019, 11:06 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Western Christian Civilization had a huge problem with white supremacists in the last Crisis Era -- literal Nazis. For a short time in the 1920's (which was before the Crisis) many Americans had a dalliance with the KKK.

However the English speaking countries, did not have much an experience of fascism not to mention authoritarianism during the last Crisis. However in this one we are certainly getting an experience of what Fascism was like, with Authoritarian Nationalists, already Britain, America and Australia have strongman authoritarian nationalist leaders.
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#55
(11-12-2019, 12:07 AM)Teejay Wrote:
(11-11-2019, 11:06 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Western Christian Civilization had a huge problem with white supremacists in the last Crisis Era -- literal Nazis. For a short time in the 1920's (which was before the Crisis) many Americans had a dalliance with the KKK.

However the English speaking countries, did not have much an experience of fascism not to mention authoritarianism during the last Crisis. However in this one we are certainly getting an experience of what Fascism was like, with Authoritarian Nationalists, already Britain, America and Australia have strongman authoritarian nationalist leaders.

And not surprising, all three have dominant press presence by the Murdock Clan.  This may be the time that freedom of the press gets targeted for incubating the crises in all three, but to what end I can't say.  Let's hope that neo-sedition acts don't pop up to "correct the imbalance between governance and press freedom".
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.
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#56
(11-12-2019, 11:23 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(11-12-2019, 12:07 AM)Teejay Wrote:
(11-11-2019, 11:06 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Western Christian Civilization had a huge problem with white supremacists in the last Crisis Era -- literal Nazis. For a short time in the 1920's (which was before the Crisis) many Americans had a dalliance with the KKK.

However the English speaking countries, did not have much an experience of fascism not to mention authoritarianism during the last Crisis. However in this one we are certainly getting an experience of what Fascism was like, with Authoritarian Nationalists, already Britain, America and Australia have strongman authoritarian nationalist leaders.

And not surprising, all three have dominant press presence by the Murdock Clan.  This may be the time that freedom of the press gets targeted for incubating the crises in all three, but to what end I can't say.  Let's hope that neo-sedition acts don't pop up to "correct the imbalance between governance and press freedom".

Rupert Murdoch is the Alfred Hugenberg our saeculum, Murdoh has been instrumental to allowing neo-nationalism to be normalised in Australian political discourse, not to mentioning playing an important role in the rise of the Brexit, Tea Party and MAGA movements.

It is notable in both Canada and New Zealand, where News Corporation does not have signifcant presence in the media, that strongman authoritarian leaders or neo-nationalist parties have not been elected in government.
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#57
It could be that every country is vulnerable to some manifestation of fascism that uniquely fits the culture of that country.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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#58
(11-18-2019, 12:25 AM)Teejay Wrote:
(11-12-2019, 11:23 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(11-12-2019, 12:07 AM)Teejay Wrote:
(11-11-2019, 11:06 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Western Christian Civilization had a huge problem with white supremacists in the last Crisis Era -- literal Nazis. For a short time in the 1920's (which was before the Crisis) many Americans had a dalliance with the KKK.

However the English speaking countries, did not have much an experience of fascism not to mention authoritarianism during the last Crisis. However in this one we are certainly getting an experience of what Fascism was like, with Authoritarian Nationalists, already Britain, America and Australia have strongman authoritarian nationalist leaders.

And not surprising, all three have dominant press presence by the Murdock Clan.  This may be the time that freedom of the press gets targeted for incubating the crises in all three, but to what end I can't say.  Let's hope that neo-sedition acts don't pop up to "correct the imbalance between governance and press freedom".

Rupert Murdoch is the Alfred Hugenberg (of) our saeculum, Murdoh has been instrumental to allowing neo-nationalism to be normalised in Australian political discourse, not to mentioning playing an important role in the rise of the Brexit, Tea Party and MAGA movements.

It is notable in both Canada and New Zealand, where News Corporation does not have significant presence in the media, that strongman authoritarian leaders or neo-nationalist parties have not been elected in government.

The heroes of this Saeculum in America could be the Model Minorities. Such people know how shaky their position is (just think of the definitive Model Minority, German Jews). Donald Trump offends them.  I associate much of our problem of racism and religious bigotry with people who have little impulse control. I once suggested to someone that the people who use the N-word heavily often have a great proclivity to use the F-word. 

Minorities rarely have things easy. They are invisible when they do good and all-too-visible when they do bad. When they do better than the majority they are often accused of devious conspiracies to exploit and dispossess the rest of humanity. If they operate a store, then maybe the goods are on consignment and the store is rented. Burn it down, and the landlord and the providers of the goods on consignment (or their insurer) gets burned financially. If you envy the Jews, then imitate them. Quit boozing and whoring; start a business instead of seeking a job that gives you just enough to keep you alive working for people who promise you that you have a great future... you can't eat promises; dedicate yourself to learning so that you can excel. Separation of powers, due process of the law, and checks and balances may not be so important to the majority as they are to people who could become pariahs easily.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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#59
(11-12-2019, 11:23 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(11-12-2019, 12:07 AM)Teejay Wrote:
(11-11-2019, 11:06 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Western Christian Civilization had a huge problem with white supremacists in the last Crisis Era -- literal Nazis. For a short time in the 1920's (which was before the Crisis) many Americans had a dalliance with the KKK.

However the English speaking countries, did not have much an experience of fascism not to mention authoritarianism during the last Crisis. However in this one we are certainly getting an experience of what Fascism was like, with Authoritarian Nationalists, already Britain, America and Australia have strongman authoritarian nationalist leaders.

And not surprising, all three have dominant press presence by the Murdock Clan.  This may be the time that freedom of the press gets targeted for incubating the crises in all three, but to what end I can't say.  Let's hope that neo-sedition acts don't pop up to "correct the imbalance between governance and press freedom".

Much of the problem arises from an educational system that has sought to get a more equal economic result among the proles by training people to take places as low-paid workers in retail stores and food-processing plants, casinos, and car servicing. To that end nobody needs any idea of how to live because one who does such work will struggle to survive. Get a small windfall? Then use it in a trip to the casino... and lose it playing slots, or get drunk on mass-market booze or beer. Fir equality among the proles we get mass poverty and lives that, if we are in any way prepared for something else, would be insufferable.

Getting along in some workplaces requires that one not think, for if one did one would realize how exploited one is and how hopeless the reality is.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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#60
(08-15-2020, 12:05 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(11-12-2019, 11:23 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(11-12-2019, 12:07 AM)Teejay Wrote:
(11-11-2019, 11:06 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Western Christian Civilization had a huge problem with white supremacists in the last Crisis Era -- literal Nazis. For a short time in the 1920's (which was before the Crisis) many Americans had a dalliance with the KKK.

However the English speaking countries, did not have much an experience of fascism not to mention authoritarianism during the last Crisis. However in this one we are certainly getting an experience of what Fascism was like, with Authoritarian Nationalists, already Britain, America and Australia have strongman authoritarian nationalist leaders.

And not surprising, all three have dominant press presence by the Murdock Clan.  This may be the time that freedom of the press gets targeted for incubating the crises in all three, but to what end I can't say.  Let's hope that neo-sedition acts don't pop up to "correct the imbalance between governance and press freedom".

Much of the problem arises from an educational system that has sought to get a more equal economic result among the proles by training people to take places as low-paid workers in retail stores and food-processing plants, casinos, and car servicing. To that end nobody needs any idea of how to live because one who does such work will struggle to survive. Get a small windfall? Then use it in a trip to the casino... and lose it playing slots, or get drunk on mass-market booze or beer. Fir equality among the proles we get mass poverty and lives that, if we are in any way prepared for something else, would be insufferable.

Getting along in some workplaces requires that one not think, for if one did one would realize how exploited one is and how hopeless the reality is.
One need not be reminded, as it should be quite obvious to most, that for the past four decades the poorer people of this country, regardless of skin color, have been treated as livestock at best, vermin at worst. In the city of Chicago the poor are now nearly invisible with a sanitary conforming look in areas where the less well off among us used to often congregate. Not even referring to the few areas of the city where you pretty much take your life in your hands venturing into them.
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