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It's in the "stars" (predicting by astrology and other means)
(02-20-2019, 10:30 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(02-20-2019, 06:27 PM)Marypoza Wrote:
(02-20-2019, 03:52 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(02-20-2019, 11:31 AM)Marypoza Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 02:28 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: I already posted my video about most of the 2020 potential candidates, right above your video post. No, as much as I admire and root for Beto, his chart does not measure up on my system. The system would have to be way off, and Beto a major anomaly, if he were ever to be elected president. It's surprising, I know, but he's close to the bottom of the list among Democrats. Only Kamala Harris scores lower among those currently on the radar. I hate to even say how many negative points Beto has on my system.[\quote]
  
-- 4 real? Bcuz she appears 2 be the DNCs Annointed One 4 next yr

She's high in the pack for sure, but this will be the Dems version of the Sweet 16 outing the GOPpers had last time.  How that plays is hard to predict this early in the process.

--- true. That could change

A lot of these candidates will be shaken out even before the primaries begin, and others after the first 2 or 3, just like the GOPPERS outing last time. But the person whom the DNC "annoints" will not likely be the nominee; that's up to the voters, and that will be especially true from now on, after DNC party reforms, and after much anger over the Bernie vs. Hillary affair. The most likely candidates to be able to defeat Trump have not yet announced; among those who even have a chance, only Bernie has announced.

-- have 2 agree with you here, if the DNC tries 2 fix next yrs primaries it will be screwing itself 7 ways til Sunday. If they have any sense @ all they will be on their fairest, most impartial behavior

But.. consider this: according 2 you Kamala Harris, the current DNC Golden Child, has a low score.Apparently a very low score.  Didn't the hildabitch have a low score in 2016 while Bernie's was perfect (16-0 or something similar) By your system Bernie should of won the primaries. So either your system sucks or the hildabitch/DNC cheated & l know enough astrology to know your system works just fine
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(02-21-2019, 12:00 AM)Marypoza Wrote:
(02-20-2019, 10:30 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(02-20-2019, 06:27 PM)Marypoza Wrote:
(02-20-2019, 03:52 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(02-20-2019, 11:31 AM)Marypoza Wrote:   
-- 4 real? Bcuz she appears 2 be the DNCs Annointed One 4 next yr

She's high in the pack for sure, but this will be the Dems version of the Sweet 16 outing the GOPpers had last time.  How that plays is hard to predict this early in the process.

--- true. That could change

A lot of these candidates will be shaken out even before the primaries begin, and others after the first 2 or 3, just like the GOPPERS outing last time. But the person whom the DNC "annoints" will not likely be the nominee; that's up to the voters, and that will be especially true from now on, after DNC party reforms, and after much anger over the Bernie vs. Hillary affair. The most likely candidates to be able to defeat Trump have not yet announced; among those who even have a chance, only Bernie has announced.

-- have 2 agree with you here, if the DNC tries 2 fix next yrs primaries it will be screwing itself 7 ways til Sunday. If they have any sense  @ all they will be on their fairest, most impartial behavior

But.. consider this: according 2 you Kamala Harris, the current DNC Golden Child, has a low score.Apparently a very low score.  Didn't the hildabitch have a low score in 2016 while Bernie's was perfect (16-0 or something similar) By your system Bernie should of won the primaries. So either your system sucks or the hildabitch/DNC cheated & l know enough astrology to know your system works just fine
It's like this. The candidates who have the aspects that appeal to Democrats, are not the same candidates and aspects that appeal to the electorate as a whole. With so many independents now, that is even more true today than in the past. Democrats tend to nominate more eggheads and think intelligence and the right policies are important. Candidates too far left or too moderate might not appeal to Democrats. But general election winners tend to be not only more moderate or conservative more-often than Democratic Party nominees, or have more populist appeal beyond the Democratic mainstream in the case of Bernie, the general electorate overall favors candidates with a different set of aspects than those nominated by Democrats. Above all, Democrats often favor candidates who can't inspire confidence, but the electorate as a whole favors skilled candidates who communicate well and appeal to typical American personalities.

I scored Bernie 10-0, and Hillary 9-8, originally, but further research I did altered the scores, and Bernie's is now 14-7, while Hillary's was 9-11. Hillary was also boosted by a probable Jupiter rising. So, Hillary probably had better aspects for winning the Democratic nomination, and the Parties in general tend to nominate candidates closer to the mainstream of their party anyway. Bernie was not officially even a Democrat, and was seen as too far left or not familiar enough to minority voters compared to "Hill." But the other side of the coin is that HAD Bernie been nominated, he would have had a better chance against Trump in 2016 than Hillary did, whose score was lower than Trump's. Originally I scored Trump as 15-4, but his score went down to 9-4.

The new moon before the election also favored the Democrat to win the popular vote in 2016. This time, the incumbent Republican may be favored, with some caveats. But at least Bernie's 14-7 gives him a shot. I'd rather see a candidate who is more of a sure bet on my system though. Even Sherrod Brown is better at 19-8, and Landrieu (16-2) and McAuliffe (11-2) are the best prospects. Biden is another crap shoot (also 14-7). Of course, scores also change a little bit when I know the time of birth, because lunar aspects are important, and the Moon moves fast.

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One example of a planetary aspect that appeals to Democrats, but not to the whole electorate, is the Mars-Neptune trine or sextile. This aspect can be called the crusader rabbit, with lots of energy and enthusiasm for idealistic causes. There's a string of Democratic losers who had this aspect. Some of these include Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Walter Mondale, George McGovern, and Hubert Humphrey. These great crusaders are not as appealing in a general election, because Americans typically don't like crusaders. Others with this aspect include Tulsi Gabbard, Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi and libertarians Ron Paul and William Weld. But, it's just one aspect among others that affect the score (Tulsi's is still positive now at 11-6).

Others who have some degree of crusader rabbit traits have the Mars-Neptune square instead of the trine, like Dukakis and Kamala Harris, but overall the square is a wash. Same with Bill Clinton's famous conjunction of the two planets on his ascendant.
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LOL, astrology.
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(03-01-2019, 08:06 PM)Hintergrund Wrote: LOL, astrology.

You and I are not in harmony in our beliefs and concerns. Typical Gen X T4Ter, as opposed to a typical boomer prophet.
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No shit, Sherlock.
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(02-22-2019, 06:10 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: One example of a planetary aspect that appeals to Democrats, but not to the whole electorate, is the Mars-Neptune trine or sextile. This aspect can be called the crusader rabbit, with lots of energy and enthusiasm for idealistic causes. There's a string of Democratic losers who had this aspect. Some of these include Hillary C linton, John Kerry, Walter Mondale, George McGovern, and Hubert Humphrey. These great crusaders are not as appealing in a general election, because Americans typically don't like crusaders. Others with this aspect include Tulsi Gabbard, Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi and libertarians Ron Paul and William Weld. But, it's just one aspect among others that affect the score (Tulsi's is still positive now at 11-6).

Others who have some degree of crusader rabbit traits have the Mars-Neptune square instead of the trine, like Dukakis and Kamala Harris, but overall the square is a wash. Same with Bill Clinton's famous conjunction of the two planets on his ascendant.

-- so your best prospects appear 2 be Bernie & Tulsi, who the public luv but the DNC hate. The DNC really need 2 keep their grimy hands off next yrs primaries & let the ppl do the voting
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(03-07-2019, 12:41 AM)Marypoza Wrote:
(02-22-2019, 06:10 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: One example of a planetary aspect that appeals to Democrats, but not to the whole electorate, is the Mars-Neptune trine or sextile. This aspect can be called the crusader rabbit, with lots of energy and enthusiasm for idealistic causes. There's a string of Democratic losers who had this aspect. Some of these include Hillary C linton, John Kerry, Walter Mondale, George McGovern, and Hubert Humphrey. These great crusaders are not as appealing in a general election, because Americans typically don't like crusaders. Others with this aspect include Tulsi Gabbard, Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi and libertarians Ron Paul and William Weld. But, it's just one aspect among others that affect the score (Tulsi's is still positive now at 11-6).

Others who have some degree of crusader rabbit traits have the Mars-Neptune square instead of the trine, like Dukakis and Kamala Harris, but overall the square is a wash. Same with Bill Clinton's famous conjunction of the two planets on his ascendant.

-- so your best prospects appear 2 be Bernie & Tulsi, who the public luv but the DNC hate. The DNC really need 2 keep their grimy hands off next yrs primaries & let the ppl do the voting

I see no chance for either of them.  Bernie is simply too old to be elected, though he has a shot at the nomination.  The same applies to Biden and may also apply to others including Elizbeth Warren.  As to Tulsi, she's too abrasive to get nominated.  To be honest, I haven't seen anyone that's really ideal so far.  Pete Buttigieg may be a great option in the future, but 37 is awfully young to make the final cut this cycle.  None of the others stand out for me.
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(03-07-2019, 12:41 AM)Marypoza Wrote:
(02-22-2019, 06:10 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: One example of a planetary aspect that appeals to Democrats, but not to the whole electorate, is the Mars-Neptune trine or sextile. This aspect can be called the crusader rabbit, with lots of energy and enthusiasm for idealistic causes. There's a string of Democratic losers who had this aspect. Some of these include Hillary C linton, John Kerry, Walter Mondale, George McGovern, and Hubert Humphrey. These great crusaders are not as appealing in a general election, because Americans typically don't like crusaders. Others with this aspect include Tulsi Gabbard, Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi and libertarians Ron Paul and William Weld. But, it's just one aspect among others that affect the score (Tulsi's is still positive now at 11-6).

Others who have some degree of crusader rabbit traits have the Mars-Neptune square instead of the trine, like Dukakis and Kamala Harris, but overall the square is a wash. Same with Bill Clinton's famous conjunction of the two planets on his ascendant.

-- so your best prospects appear 2 be Bernie & Tulsi, who the public luv but the DNC hate. The DNC really need 2 keep their grimy hands off next yrs primaries & let the ppl do the voting

Tulsi is not a good prospect, no. You say that; I didn't. Bernie has some chance, but the odds are probably still against him. I hope Terry McAuliffe runs. He may be too "business friendly" and a DNC man, but he's not running as the next Clinton. But my point was, the candidate with the best chance of winning the nomination, may not be the candidate with the best chance to win the general election. I haven't researched the former well enough yet to say who has the best chart to be nominated (and probably that person would lose the general, since Democrats are so good at choosing losers).

Who can win the general election?


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(03-04-2019, 01:54 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(03-01-2019, 08:06 PM)Hintergrund Wrote: LOL, astrology.

You and I are not in harmony in our beliefs and concerns. Typical Gen X T4Ter, as opposed to a typical boomer prophet.

Stereotypes are disgustingly ignorant and laughable, kind of like taking astrology seriously.
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Ok so now Uncle Joe's in the race. This is truly the Silents last gasp chance @ getting a Prez. So what say you Eric? Can Joe or Bernie pull it off? Or will the Donald prevail?
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Joe and Bernie both have a 14-7 score. The odds favor Trump, but if he is unpopular enough, Joe and Bernie have scores close enough that they might pull it out.
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(03-15-2019, 04:46 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Joe and Bernie both have a 14-7 score. The odds favor Trump, but if he is unpopular enough, Joe and Bernie have scores close enough that they might pull it out.

-- seriously? Even with this shitshow going on? That's not pulling the Donald down a few points?
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(03-15-2019, 11:04 PM)Marypoza Wrote:
(03-15-2019, 04:46 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Joe and Bernie both have a 14-7 score. The odds favor Trump, but if he is unpopular enough, Joe and Bernie have scores close enough that they might pull it out.

-- seriously? Even with this shitshow going on? That's not pulling the Donald down a few points?

If you separate the Trump absolutists whose minds cannot be changed -- on both sides -- you're left with the fluid voters who can be influenced right up to election day.  Yes, we're witnessing a shitshow, and the number of absolutists opposing Trump may grow a bit.  Whether that's enough to move that gooey mass of humanity away from the Trumpster is still an open question, and they have enough votes to determine the result.
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(03-16-2019, 08:09 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(03-15-2019, 11:04 PM)Marypoza Wrote:
(03-15-2019, 04:46 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Joe and Bernie both have a 14-7 score. The odds favor Trump, but if he is unpopular enough, Joe and Bernie have scores close enough that they might pull it out.

-- seriously? Even with this shitshow going on? That's not pulling the Donald down a few points?

If you separate the Trump absolutists whose minds cannot be changed -- on both sides -- you're left with the fluid voters who can be influenced right up to election day.  Yes, we're witnessing a shitshow, and the number of absolutists opposing Trump may grow a bit.  Whether that's enough to move that gooey mass of humanity away from the Trumpster is still an open question, and they have enough votes to determine the result.

-- this is true. Things could change drastically- either way- by Nov of next yr. In fact they probably will
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(03-13-2019, 01:22 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(03-04-2019, 01:54 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(03-01-2019, 08:06 PM)Hintergrund Wrote: LOL, astrology.

You and I are not in harmony in our beliefs and concerns. Typical Gen X T4Ter, as opposed to a typical boomer prophet.

Stereotypes are disgustingly ignorant and laughable, kind of like taking astrology seriously.

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