02-09-2021, 12:34 AM
(02-08-2021, 11:50 PM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]Your both morons subservient to the capitalist class, but do as you please.I'm not subservient to the capitalist class.
(02-08-2021, 11:50 PM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]Your both morons subservient to the capitalist class, but do as you please.I'm not subservient to the capitalist class.
(02-09-2021, 12:34 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]You are subservient to the manufacturing and extractive capitalists represented by the Democratic Party*.(02-08-2021, 11:50 PM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]Your both morons subservient to the capitalist class, but do as you please.I'm not subservient to the capitalist class.
(02-08-2021, 11:39 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ](02-05-2021, 07:05 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]The Republican Party has gone from being a mainstream Party with a fascist fringe to being a fascistic Party with a mainstream relic. Nixon miscalculated about the desirability of the white Southern racists in his Party. In 1980, 1984, and 1988 that was good for landslide wins of the Presidency and big gains in the Senate as Dixiecrats joined the Party of Lincoln while holding their nose about Lincoln.
The only party that I see ignoring the ignoring/trashing the Constitution, representing/defending foreign interests and doing whatever it can to undermine the rule of law is the Democratic party these days. You have Liz Cheney and that's it. Once she's out of the way. there will be no rules to save idiots like you from us. (rambling screed excised)
(02-09-2021, 12:39 AM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:34 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]You are subservient to the manufacturing and extractive capitalists represented by the Democratic Party*.(02-08-2021, 11:50 PM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]Your both morons subservient to the capitalist class, but do as you please.I'm not subservient to the capitalist class.
(02-09-2021, 01:47 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:39 AM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:34 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]You are subservient to the manufacturing and extractive capitalists represented by the Democratic Party*.(02-08-2021, 11:50 PM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]Your both morons subservient to the capitalist class, but do as you please.I'm not subservient to the capitalist class.
You're not speaking to a Democratic supporter or someone heavily banking on the success of the Democratic party or someone reliant upon the Democratic party for something or another. The Democrats haven't figured out that it's going a lot more than a cheap political victory to break the will of the American people who voted for Trump and turn America into a passive Democratic run society where no one has the right to question some ditz/ dip shit with a college degree who works for the New York Times or some racist moron with a college degree who works for CNN or some darker skinned Congressional moron/imbecile with a college degree who works for US taxpayers and some old rich white cunt from San Fransisco who has a college degree works for us too. I bet you get a chance to see a 4 Trillion Dollar economy cancelled by American culture and get a chance see what can happen to some arrogant billionaires and some arrogant Democratic politicians with big mouths too.
(02-09-2021, 01:15 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]So, what was the Party whose supporters burned down portions of several cities, destroyed private property and participated in all kinds of violence including the murder of Trump supporters and police officers for several months before a group of angry people stormed the US Capital and got you're panties all up in a bunch? Guess what, you partisan piece of shit hack, peoples panties don't get all up in a bunch when they've been watching the same shit going on all over the country for several months.(02-08-2021, 11:39 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ](02-05-2021, 07:05 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]The Republican Party has gone from being a mainstream Party with a fascist fringe to being a fascistic Party with a mainstream relic. Nixon miscalculated about the desirability of the white Southern racists in his Party. In 1980, 1984, and 1988 that was good for landslide wins of the Presidency and big gains in the Senate as Dixiecrats joined the Party of Lincoln while holding their nose about Lincoln.
The only party that I see ignoring the ignoring/trashing the Constitution, representing/defending foreign interests and doing whatever it can to undermine the rule of law is the Democratic party these days. You have Liz Cheney and that's it. Once she's out of the way. there will be no rules to save idiots like you from us. (rambling screed excised)
So what was the Party whose supporters stormed the Capitol Building so that they could nullify a Presidential election? That is how many dictatorships come into being. You saw the Trump banners and the Confederate flags, didn't you?
(02-09-2021, 02:05 AM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]The Republican party can't win without us and Trumps base and Liz Cheney has no political or financial sway over either group of voters. So, the current concentration/consolidation of wealth and power should remain exclusively on the Democratic side for the next four years.(02-09-2021, 01:47 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:39 AM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:34 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]You are subservient to the manufacturing and extractive capitalists represented by the Democratic Party*.(02-08-2021, 11:50 PM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]Your both morons subservient to the capitalist class, but do as you please.I'm not subservient to the capitalist class.
You're not speaking to a Democratic supporter or someone heavily banking on the success of the Democratic party or someone reliant upon the Democratic party for something or another. The Democrats haven't figured out that it's going a lot more than a cheap political victory to break the will of the American people who voted for Trump and turn America into a passive Democratic run society where no one has the right to question some ditz/ dip shit with a college degree who works for the New York Times or some racist moron with a college degree who works for CNN or some darker skinned Congressional moron/imbecile with a college degree who works for US taxpayers and some old rich white cunt from San Fransisco who has a college degree works for us too. I bet you get a chance to see a 4 Trillion Dollar economy cancelled by American culture and get a chance see what can happen to some arrogant billionaires and some arrogant Democratic politicians with big mouths too.
Republican* party.
(02-09-2021, 02:50 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 02:05 AM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]The Republican party can't win without us and Trumps base and Liz Cheney has no political or financial sway over either group of voters. So, the current concentration/consolidation of wealth and power should remain exclusively on the Democratic side for the next four years.(02-09-2021, 01:47 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:39 AM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:34 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not subservient to the capitalist class.You are subservient to the manufacturing and extractive capitalists represented by the Democratic Party*.
You're not speaking to a Democratic supporter or someone heavily banking on the success of the Democratic party or someone reliant upon the Democratic party for something or another. The Democrats haven't figured out that it's going a lot more than a cheap political victory to break the will of the American people who voted for Trump and turn America into a passive Democratic run society where no one has the right to question some ditz/ dip shit with a college degree who works for the New York Times or some racist moron with a college degree who works for CNN or some darker skinned Congressional moron/imbecile with a college degree who works for US taxpayers and some old rich white cunt from San Fransisco who has a college degree works for us too. I bet you get a chance to see a 4 Trillion Dollar economy cancelled by American culture and get a chance see what can happen to some arrogant billionaires and some arrogant Democratic politicians with big mouths too.
Republican* party.
(02-09-2021, 02:19 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 01:15 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ](02-08-2021, 11:39 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ](02-05-2021, 07:05 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]The Republican Party has gone from being a mainstream Party with a fascist fringe to being a fascistic Party with a mainstream relic. Nixon miscalculated about the desirability of the white Southern racists in his Party. In 1980, 1984, and 1988 that was good for landslide wins of the Presidency and big gains in the Senate as Dixiecrats joined the Party of Lincoln while holding their nose about Lincoln.
The only party that I see ignoring the ignoring/trashing the Constitution, representing/defending foreign interests and doing whatever it can to undermine the rule of law is the Democratic party these days. You have Liz Cheney and that's it. Once she's out of the way. there will be no rules to save idiots like you from us. (rambling screed excised)
So what was the Party whose supporters stormed the Capitol Building so that they could nullify a Presidential election? That is how many dictatorships come into being. You saw the Trump banners and the Confederate flags, didn't you?
So, what was the Party whose supporters burned down portions of several cities, destroyed private property and participated in all kinds of violence including the murder of Trump supporters and police officers for several months before a group of angry people stormed the US Capital and got you're panties all up in a bunch? (further insults excised -- and you will be reported for that)
(02-08-2021, 11:50 PM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]Your both morons subservient to the capitalist class, but do as you please.
(02-09-2021, 12:26 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]You seem to be ignoring that as the American right (the Republican base) has been moving the Republicans further to the right, the Left has been been moving the Democratic party further to the left to the point where the Democratic Party is barely recognizable as an American party these days. So, which side that's controlled by ideological zealots is going nuts these days? So, how many crazy left wing women are going to directly participate in the war that they start with America? You are now in very dangerous territory and we won't be fighting over slavery this time. We'll be fighting over a country vs a foreign regime that you either f-d up and elected or wanted. I can tell you this, the Left is going to lose and the Democratic side is going to be destroyed in the process.
(02-09-2021, 02:02 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:26 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]You seem to be ignoring that as the American right (the Republican base) has been moving the Republicans further to the right, the Left has been been moving the Democratic party further to the left to the point where the Democratic Party is barely recognizable as an American party these days. So, which side that's controlled by ideological zealots is going nuts these days? So, how many crazy left wing women are going to directly participate in the war that they start with America? You are now in very dangerous territory and we won't be fighting over slavery this time. We'll be fighting over a country vs a foreign regime that you either f-d up and elected or wanted. I can tell you this, the Left is going to lose and the Democratic side is going to be destroyed in the process.
The GOP has certainly continued it's rightward trend, and that's saying something considering how far right the party is already. The Dems are moving left, but, as I pointed out on another thread, they are still to the right of center in contrast to other left parties in the advanced world. And let's get real. The warrior class is on the right -- male and female. Just look at the idiots in Michigan as a prime example.
I fail to understand the cowardice of the chest-thumping Right, when they are only out in public when armed to the teeth. Are we really all that scary? BOO!
(02-09-2021, 01:47 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:39 AM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:34 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]You are subservient to the manufacturing and extractive capitalists represented by the Democratic Party*.(02-08-2021, 11:50 PM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]Your both morons subservient to the capitalist class, but do as you please.I'm not subservient to the capitalist class.
You're not speaking to a Democratic supporter or someone heavily banking on the success of the Democratic party or someone reliant upon the Democratic party for something or another. The Democrats haven't figured out that it's going a lot more than a cheap political victory to break the will of the American people who voted for Trump and turn America into a passive Democratic run society where no one has the right to question some (misogynistic smear excised) with a college degree who works for the New York Times or some racist moron with a college degree who works for CNN or some darker skinned Congressional moron/imbecile with a college degree who works for US taxpayers and some old rich white (vile word excised!) from San Fransisco who has a college degree works for us too. I bet you get a chance to see a 4 Trillion Dollar economy cancelled by American culture and get a chance see what can happen to some arrogant billionaires and some arrogant Democratic politicians with big mouths too.
(02-09-2021, 01:56 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ](02-08-2021, 11:50 PM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]Your both morons subservient to the capitalist class, but do as you please.
You have that One Note Samba on heavy rotation. You might try a few other arguments too.
(02-10-2021, 03:05 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]I have nothing in common with either of you at this point. As far as I'm concerned, you guys can fight over whatever is left of the Democratic empire.(02-09-2021, 01:47 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:39 AM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:34 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]You are subservient to the manufacturing and extractive capitalists represented by the Democratic Party*.(02-08-2021, 11:50 PM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]Your both morons subservient to the capitalist class, but do as you please.I'm not subservient to the capitalist class.
You're not speaking to a Democratic supporter or someone heavily banking on the success of the Democratic party or someone reliant upon the Democratic party for something or another. The Democrats haven't figured out that it's going a lot more than a cheap political victory to break the will of the American people who voted for Trump and turn America into a passive Democratic run society where no one has the right to question some (misogynistic smear excised) with a college degree who works for the New York Times or some racist moron with a college degree who works for CNN or some darker skinned Congressional moron/imbecile with a college degree who works for US taxpayers and some old rich white (vile word excised!) from San Fransisco who has a college degree works for us too. I bet you get a chance to see a 4 Trillion Dollar economy cancelled by American culture and get a chance see what can happen to some arrogant billionaires and some arrogant Democratic politicians with big mouths too.
Einzige is speaking to someone aligned with mirror-image Marxists, the sorts of people who see capitalism much like a Marxist sees capitalism. The difference between you and Einzige is that you endorse the monstrosity that Einzige and I both excoriate. I see merits in a market economy, economic competition, open opportunity for starting businesses, and a political order that supplies people with the means of participating fully in a capitalist system that achieves the equity of socialism without the tyranny of tycoons and bureaucratic elites. Personal freedom, which means living without fear of a despotic leader, and economic efficiency may be worth some inequality that arises from natural differences in competence, effort, and personal sacrifice.
It is not necessary to kill, exile, or dispossess people who have firm belief in the idea that no human suffering can ever be in excess so long as it supports the power, indulgence, and gain of people as bereft of conscience as they are unbelievably-rich in assets. It is enough that such people cannot enforce their sick dreams (a nightmare for most Americans) as the social norm.
If Marxist socialism does not work, then we can at least have Capitalism with a Human Face.
(02-09-2021, 02:02 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ]Well, there are quite a few armed thugs/criminals/violent people who have no values or respect for others who are now directly associated with the Left and the Democratic party these days. So, what you see is a sample of what you're in for now that concept of so called unity is gone? Personally speaking, I'd walk over and show Nancy what real life violence is like and see how well she responds to being punched in the face and teach her the double standard that she's accustomed to receiving or applying doesn't exist in the real world.(02-09-2021, 12:26 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]You seem to be ignoring that as the American right (the Republican base) has been moving the Republicans further to the right, the Left has been been moving the Democratic party further to the left to the point where the Democratic Party is barely recognizable as an American party these days. So, which side that's controlled by ideological zealots is going nuts these days? So, how many crazy left wing women are going to directly participate in the war that they start with America? You are now in very dangerous territory and we won't be fighting over slavery this time. We'll be fighting over a country vs a foreign regime that you either f-d up and elected or wanted. I can tell you this, the Left is going to lose and the Democratic side is going to be destroyed in the process.
The GOP has certainly continued it's rightward trend, and that's saying something considering how far right the party is already. The Dems are moving left, but, as I pointed out on another thread, they are still to the right of center in contrast to other left parties in the advanced world. And let's get real. The warrior class is on the right -- male and female. Just look at the idiots in Michigan as a prime example.
I fail to understand the cowardice of the chest-thumping Right, when they are only out in public when armed to the teeth. Are we really all that scary? BOO!
(02-10-2021, 04:07 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ](02-10-2021, 03:05 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]I have nothing in common with either of you at this point. As far as I'm concerned, you guys can fight over whatever is left of the Democratic empire.(02-09-2021, 01:47 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:39 AM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:34 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not subservient to the capitalist class.You are subservient to the manufacturing and extractive capitalists represented by the Democratic Party*.
You're not speaking to a Democratic supporter or someone heavily banking on the success of the Democratic party or someone reliant upon the Democratic party for something or another. The Democrats haven't figured out that it's going a lot more than a cheap political victory to break the will of the American people who voted for Trump and turn America into a passive Democratic run society where no one has the right to question some (misogynistic smear excised) with a college degree who works for the New York Times or some racist moron with a college degree who works for CNN or some darker skinned Congressional moron/imbecile with a college degree who works for US taxpayers and some old rich white (vile word excised!) from San Fransisco who has a college degree works for us too. I bet you get a chance to see a 4 Trillion Dollar economy cancelled by American culture and get a chance see what can happen to some arrogant billionaires and some arrogant Democratic politicians with big mouths too.
Einzige is speaking to someone aligned with mirror-image Marxists, the sorts of people who see capitalism much like a Marxist sees capitalism. The difference between you and Einzige is that you endorse the monstrosity that Einzige and I both excoriate. I see merits in a market economy, economic competition, open opportunity for starting businesses, and a political order that supplies people with the means of participating fully in a capitalist system that achieves the equity of socialism without the tyranny of tycoons and bureaucratic elites. Personal freedom, which means living without fear of a despotic leader, and economic efficiency may be worth some inequality that arises from natural differences in competence, effort, and personal sacrifice.
It is not necessary to kill, exile, or dispossess people who have firm belief in the idea that no human suffering can ever be in excess so long as it supports the power, indulgence, and gain of people as bereft of conscience as they are unbelievably-rich in assets. It is enough that such people cannot enforce their sick dreams (a nightmare for most Americans) as the social norm.
If Marxist socialism does not work, then we can at least have Capitalism with a Human Face.
(02-10-2021, 09:19 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 02:02 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ](02-09-2021, 12:26 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]You seem to be ignoring that as the American right (the Republican base) has been moving the Republicans further to the right, the Left has been been moving the Democratic party further to the left to the point where the Democratic Party is barely recognizable as an American party these days. So, which side that's controlled by ideological zealots is going nuts these days? So, how many crazy left wing women are going to directly participate in the war that they start with America? You are now in very dangerous territory and we won't be fighting over slavery this time. We'll be fighting over a country vs a foreign regime that you either f-d up and elected or wanted. I can tell you this, the Left is going to lose and the Democratic side is going to be destroyed in the process.
The GOP has certainly continued it's rightward trend, and that's saying something considering how far right the party is already. The Dems are moving left, but, as I pointed out on another thread, they are still to the right of center in contrast to other left parties in the advanced world. And let's get real. The warrior class is on the right -- male and female. Just look at the idiots in Michigan as a prime example.
I fail to understand the cowardice of the chest-thumping Right, when they are only out in public when armed to the teeth. Are we really all that scary? BOO!
Well, there are quite a few armed thugs/criminals/violent people who have no values or respect for others who are now directly associated with the Left and the Democratic party these days. So, what you see is a sample of what you're in for now that concept of so called unity is gone? Personally speaking, I'd walk over and show Nancy what real life violence is like and see how well she responds to being punched in the face and teach her the double standard that she's accustomed to receiving or applying doesn't exist in the real world.
(02-12-2021, 10:31 AM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ] Threats directed at government officials will be taken much more seriously under Biden than they were under Trump.That doesn't/wouldn't surprise me knowing their insecure mentality. I expect that they'll continue to overreact and overreach and continue to further alienate and divide as well.
(02-10-2021, 12:48 PM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]You have more in common with pbrower than I do. You both want to preserve the market economy. I want it abolished.PB has more in common with you than you think. All the Marxists would have to do is continue to provide for PB and PB would be cool with Marxism.