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(07-21-2020, 03:07 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-20-2020, 05:15 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]CNN is now reporting Trump is supporting masks as patriotic, but is trying not to mention this is a reverse of what he has been saying for months.

I suppose tests and PPE will reverse as well in the near future?  If his recent positions hurt his poll numbers enough, he will finally change his positions?

Maybe a bit late?

You're actually trying to be rational and discuss Trump in the same sentence.  Really?

It's a stretch, I know, but once in a while I dream.
An AP poll shows 3 in four Americans including a majority of Republicans support the wearing of masks.
(07-23-2020, 09:13 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]An AP poll shows 3 in four Americans including a majority of Republicans support the wearing of masks.

According to the Orange One, that's not a majority.
(07-23-2020, 09:49 AM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-23-2020, 09:13 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]An AP poll shows 3 in four Americans including a majority of Republicans support the wearing of masks.

According to the Orange One, that's not a majority.

Do you still think he counts?
(07-23-2020, 10:36 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-23-2020, 09:49 AM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-23-2020, 09:13 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]An AP poll shows 3 in four Americans including a majority of Republicans support the wearing of masks.

According to the Orange One, that's not a majority.

Do you still think he counts?

His math is always perfect because he had an uncle who taught at MIT: his brain is great by assimilation.
(07-23-2020, 11:08 AM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-23-2020, 10:36 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-23-2020, 09:49 AM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-23-2020, 09:13 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]An AP poll shows 3 in four Americans including a majority of Republicans support the wearing of masks.

According to the Orange One, that's not a majority.

Do you still think he counts?

His math is always perfect because he had an uncle who taught at MIT: his brain is great by assimilation.

Color me dubious.
(07-23-2020, 11:36 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-23-2020, 11:08 AM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-23-2020, 10:36 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-23-2020, 09:49 AM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-23-2020, 09:13 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]An AP poll shows 3 in four Americans including a majority of Republicans support the wearing of masks.

According to the Orange One, that's not a majority.

Do you still think he counts?

His math is always perfect because he had an uncle who taught at MIT: his brain is great by assimilation.

Color me dubious.

H-m-m-m.  The Donald is in his own personal Venn diagram.  Shared space with others is probably small -- even with his nominal allies.
CNN is starting to see cracks in even the best countries that initially held the virus down.

At a guess, the discipline required to  hang onto the isolation procedure is missing in more than just our culture.  People who were initially willing to follow good advice got tired of it, and relaxed the response.  At any rate, there are a number of countries mentioned in the article that initially did well and were lauded for it who are not doing well now.
I can make my own article, I think. Countries that had fewer than 500 new cases yesterday (those more-severely affected had over 1000, and the USA had over 69,000).
These are listed going down the worldometer list in order of total cases.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Italy 306
Canada 432
Qatar 373
China 22
Sweden 53
Belarus 167
Belgium 369
UAE 254
Netherlands 163
Portugal 229
Singapore 354
Poland 418
Bahrain 359
Armenia 469
Afghanistan 201
Switzerland 117
Azerbaijan 347
Ireland 7
Serbia 412
Moldova 307
Austria 170
Uzbeskistan 489
Morocco 302
Nepal 147
Ivory Coast 268
Czechia 230
South Korea 59
Venezuela 449
Denmark 42
El Salvador 402
Australia 410
Ethiopia 409

Below this point on the list, are countries that have had less than 10,000 total cases. Those on the list who had below 50 new cases yesterday were:

Norway 26
Malaysia 9
Finland 10
Haiti 21
Tajikistan 45
Gabon none reported
Mauritania 40
Djibouti 1
Central African Rep. 16
Hungary 14
Greece 33
Thailand 8
Somalia 10
Madlives 17
Equ Guinea none reported
Mayotte 23
Congo none reported
Sri Lanka 1
Mali non reported
Cuba 4
South Sudan 28
Cabo Verde 36
Slovakia 31
Slovenia 27
Estonia 2
Lithuania 9
Guinea-Bissau none reported
Iceland 1
Sierra Leone 21
Rwanda 21
Benin 4
Yemen 14
Mozambique 25
New Zealand none reported
Tunisia 12
Latvia 6
Uruguay 24
Jordan 11
Niger 2
Liberia 3
Georgia 12
Uganda 4
Burkina Faso 4
Cyprus 5

All other countries have had below 1000 total cases

As you can see, a whole bunch of countries are doing well, including many who were known as doing well. Europe, East Asia and Africa have a lot of countries on this above list.

Now let's see the countries who WERE doing well, but are having a bit of a surge as of yesterday with over 1000 new cases (listed in order going down the list of total cases):

Spain 2615
France 1062

Not too many.
Countries with the most new cases yesterday:

USA 69,443
Brazil 58,080
India 48,446
South Africa 13,104
Colombia 7945
Argentina 6127
Mexico 6019
Russia 5848
Peru 4546
Bangladesh 2856
Iran 2621
Spain 2615
Iraq 2361
Chile 2357
Saudi Arabia 2238
Philippines 2151
Indonesia 1906
Israel 1897
Bolivia 1778
Pakistan 1763
Kazakhstan 1646
Dominican Republic 1572
Romania 1112
Oman 1099
France 1062
Guatemala 1057

Notice that a lot of these countries have absolutely degenerate THUGS at their helm:
USA, Brazil, India, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Philippines, Israel, Kazakhstan.....

lots of hispanic countries still on the list, and that includes Spain....
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Governor Abbott (R-TX) finally did the right thing in shutting down the bars, places perfectly suited to spreading COVID-19. But some of the bars chose to promote a "Freedom Fest" that defies that ban. Contrast Michigan, which was quick to close bars and slow to allow them to reopen.

If I were the Governor I would be going to the state's liquor licensing agency and asking it to yank liquor licenses. I would be encouraging state and local law enforcement to intensify scrutiny of the areas around those non-compliant bars for DUI offenses. 

I can hardly imagine people more likely to spread COVID-19 than heavy drinkers in a celebratory mood.
DeSantis (R-FL) and Trump toady on COVID-19.

Want to bet that lots of Arizonans, Iowans, and Floridians had voted for a Democrat for Governor?


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Where is the virus in CA?

Most new cases reported today in Southern and San Joaquin Valley counties:
Los Angeles 3568
Kern (Bakersfield area, very Republican) 1633
San Bernardino 869
Riverside 680
Orange 595
Fresno 400
Stanislaus 258

Most new cases reported today in SF Bay Area counties:
Contra Costa 187
Alameda 116
Santa Clara 114
San Francisco 108
San Mateo 65
Sonoma 62

https://www.worldometers.info/coronaviru...alifornia/
The 5 world regions that are doing well among my two lists from July 23, and those doing poorly on my third list from July 23.

(07-24-2020, 04:27 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ]First, countries that had fewer than 500 new cases yesterday among nations with 10,000 or more new cases.
These are listed going down the worldometer list in order of total cases.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Italy 306
Canada 432
Qatar 373
China 22
Sweden 53
Belarus 167
Belgium 369
UAE 254
Netherlands 163
Portugal 229
Singapore 354
Poland 418
Bahrain 359
Armenia 469
Afghanistan 201
Switzerland 117
Azerbaijan 347
Ireland 7
Serbia 412
Moldova 307
Austria 170
Uzbeskistan 489
Morocco 302
Nepal 147
Ivory Coast 268
Czechia 230
South Korea 59
Venezuela 449
Denmark 42
El Salvador 402
Australia 410
Ethiopia 409

Below this point on the list, are countries that have had less than 10,000 total cases. Those on the list who had below 50 new cases yesterday were:

Norway 26
Malaysia 9
Finland 10
Haiti 21
Tajikistan 45
Gabon none reported
Mauritania 40
Djibouti 1
Central African Rep. 16
Hungary 14
Greece 33
Thailand 8
Somalia 10
Maldives 17
Equ Guinea none reported
Mayotte 23
Congo none reported
Sri Lanka 1
Mali non reported
Cuba 4
South Sudan 28
Cabo Verde 36
Slovakia 31
Slovenia 27
Estonia 2
Lithuania 9
Guinea-Bissau none reported
Iceland 1
Sierra Leone 21
Rwanda 21
Benin 4
Yemen 14
Mozambique 25
New Zealand none reported
Tunisia 12
Latvia 6
Uruguay 24
Jordan 11
Niger 2
Liberia 3
Georgia 12
Uganda 4
Burkina Faso 4
Cyprus 5


Countries with the most new cases:

USA 69,443
Brazil 58,080
India 48,446
South Africa 13,104
Colombia 7945
Argentina 6127
Mexico 6019
Russia 5848
Peru 4546
Bangladesh 2856
Iran 2621
Spain 2615
Iraq 2361
Chile 2357
Saudi Arabia 2238
Philippines 2151
Indonesia 1906
Israel 1897
Bolivia 1778
Pakistan 1763
Kazakhstan 1646
Dominican Republic 1572
Romania 1112
Oman 1099
France 1062
Guatemala 1057

Countries "doing well", regions:
Europe: 28
Africa: 23
East Asia (Bangladesh/Nepal to Oceania): 8
West Asia (India/the stans westward): 9
America: 6

Countries "not doing well", regions:
Europe: 4
Africa: 1
East Asia: 3
West Asia: 8
America: 10
Most new cases reported in US states July 26:

Florida 9344
California 6074
Texas 4309
Louisiana 3840
Tennessee 3140
Georgia 2765
Arizona 1973
Illinois 1541
North Carolina 1472
Mississippi 1207
Nevada 1207
Oklahoma 1204
South Carolina 1191
Alabama 1164
Missouri 1069
Michigan 1039
Nevada 1027
It couldn't last.  For a while Trump showed signs of at least touching the scientific policies on the virus, but CNN has a piece which suggest he is returning to his old form.  

Open up!  Go without masks!  Be clueless!
(07-28-2020, 07:59 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]It couldn't last.  For a while Trump showed signs of at least touching the scientific policies on the virus, but CNN has a piece which suggest he is returning to his old form.  

Open up!  Go massless!  Be clueless!

What do you expect? This extreme narcissist has himself as the measure of good, and anything that gets in his way is evil. That is the way with all despots, and the differences between them is whether any one despot can get away with what he wants to do.
(07-28-2020, 08:41 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-28-2020, 07:59 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]It couldn't last.  For a while Trump showed signs of at least touching the scientific policies on the virus, but CNN has a piece which suggest he is returning to his old form.  

Open up!  Go massless!  Be clueless!

What do you expect? This extreme narcissist has himself as the measure of good, and anything that gets in his way is evil. That is the way with all despots, and the differences between them is whether any one despot can get away with what he wants to do.

At one point, his advisors convinced him that he was starting to kill his own followers and, more to the point, voters in key swing states.  I guess the message didn't take.
(07-28-2020, 11:16 AM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-28-2020, 08:41 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-28-2020, 07:59 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]It couldn't last.  For a while Trump showed signs of at least touching the scientific policies on the virus, but CNN has a piece which suggest he is returning to his old form.  

Open up!  Go massless!  Be clueless!

What do you expect? This extreme narcissist has himself as the measure of good, and anything that gets in his way is evil. That is the way with all despots, and the differences between them is whether any one despot can get away with what he wants to do.

At one point, his advisors convinced him that he was starting to kill his own followers and, more to the point, voters in key swing states.  I guess the message didn't take.

Just saw this on the interwebs.  How about some sobering perspectives.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/opini...ponse.html

Yup, we're a banana republic now.
(07-28-2020, 12:45 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote: [ -> ]Yup, we're a banana republic now.

Do we at least get cheap bananas?  Wink