(11-14-2021, 07:39 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-05-2021, 04:57 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]Federal law enforcement isn't ignoring it.
They don't seem to be in a hurry though...
Yes, and an oddity I find fully baffling. Is anyone awake at DOJ?
The Dems beiing the do-too-little party is actually worse than the GOP do-nothings. At least the do-nothings are following their twisted beliefs. The do-too-littles claim to be outraged, then put the entire issue on very slow boil. They'll probably lose in 2022 and fully deserve it. We, on the other hand, deserve better -- much better.
(11-15-2021, 02:24 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2021, 07:39 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-05-2021, 04:57 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]Federal law enforcement isn't ignoring it.
They don't seem to be in a hurry though...
Yes, and an oddity I find fully baffling. Is anyone awake at DOJ?
The Dems beiing the do-too-little party is actually worse than the GOP do-nothings. At least the do-nothings are following their twisted beliefs. The do-too-littles claim to be outraged, then put the entire issue on very slow boil. They'll probably lose in 2022 and fully deserve it. We, on the other hand, deserve better -- much better.
The Dems are who we got. The do-too-little Party is much better than the do-nothing Party, not "actually worse". Following twisted beliefs is worse than slow boil. That leaves everything to the do-too-little Party, and dumb pundits and cynics say this is what divides the country, when it's
the people who are dividing the country. But the do-too-littles can't do too much when, thanks to too many voters who voted for the do-nothings, their razor-thin majority depends on
2 DINOs in a Senate which was constructed to give slaveholders more power. And the people are too dumb to observe this.
Voting Democratic is necessary to extend the Democratic majorities in congress. Then the do-too-little Party would do-much-better. But we needed a president with the intuitive forecasting skills of a master psychic or astrologer, ones even better than me, and Biden doesn't have those skills. Who else could have predicted the current supply and labor messes and the rapid fall of Afghanistan? So his approval rating is tanking because he is doing-too-little about the current problems. But short of mobilizing the armed forces and hiring immigrants, which he's not doing, there's not much he can do. So we probably will get inadequate action in the next four years, and maybe no action at all or negative action if Harris is nominated in 2024. Climate action in this case will be limited to the blue states and whatever they can do without federal support.
(11-15-2021, 03:03 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2021, 02:24 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2021, 07:39 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-05-2021, 04:57 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]Federal law enforcement isn't ignoring it.
They don't seem to be in a hurry though...
Yes, and an oddity I find fully baffling. Is anyone awake at DOJ?
The Dems beiing the do-too-little party is actually worse than the GOP do-nothings. At least the do-nothings are following their twisted beliefs. The do-too-littles claim to be outraged, then put the entire issue on very slow boil. They'll probably lose in 2022 and fully deserve it. We, on the other hand, deserve better -- much better.
The Dems are who we got. The do-too-little Party is much better than the do-nothing Party, not "actually worse". Following twisted beliefs is worse than slow boil. That leaves everything to the do-too-little Party, and dumb pundits and cynics say this is what divides the country, when it's the people who are dividing the country. But the do-too-littles can't do too much when, thanks to too many voters who voted for the do-nothings, their razor-thin majority depends on 2 DINOs in a Senate which was constructed to give slaveholders more power. And the people are too dumb to observe this.
Voting Democratic is necessary to extend the Democratic majorities in congress. Then the do-too-little Party would do-much-better. But we needed a president with the intuitive forecasting skills of a master psychic or astrologer, ones even better than me, and Biden doesn't have those skills. Who else could have predicted the current supply and labor messes and the rapid fall of Afghanistan? So his approval rating is tanking because he is doing-too-little about the current problems. But short of mobilizing the armed forces and hiring immigrants, which he's not doing, there's not much he can do. So we probably will get inadequate action in the next four years, and maybe no action at all or negative action if Harris is nominated in 2024. Climate action in this case will be limited to the blue states and whatever they can do without federal support.
At the end of the day, the public sees an old bumbling guy and a bevy of handwringers. Most people have no interst in politics; less in policy. So they use their guts and evaluate what they think should be happening against what actually is. It doesn't help that many media sources are actively opposed to the Dems on every level, and act as as partisan propagandists selling the misconceptions 24/7. Once Afghanistan went in the dumper, their work was easy.
(11-17-2021, 02:27 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2021, 03:03 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2021, 02:24 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2021, 07:39 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-05-2021, 04:57 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]Federal law enforcement isn't ignoring it.
They don't seem to be in a hurry though...
Yes, and an oddity I find fully baffling. Is anyone awake at DOJ?
The Dems beiing the do-too-little party is actually worse than the GOP do-nothings. At least the do-nothings are following their twisted beliefs. The do-too-littles claim to be outraged, then put the entire issue on very slow boil. They'll probably lose in 2022 and fully deserve it. We, on the other hand, deserve better -- much better.
The Dems are who we got. The do-too-little Party is much better than the do-nothing Party, not "actually worse". Following twisted beliefs is worse than slow boil. That leaves everything to the do-too-little Party, and dumb pundits and cynics say this is what divides the country, when it's the people who are dividing the country. But the do-too-littles can't do too much when, thanks to too many voters who voted for the do-nothings, their razor-thin majority depends on 2 DINOs in a Senate which was constructed to give slaveholders more power. And the people are too dumb to observe this.
Voting Democratic is necessary to extend the Democratic majorities in congress. Then the do-too-little Party would do-much-better. But we needed a president with the intuitive forecasting skills of a master psychic or astrologer, ones even better than me, and Biden doesn't have those skills. Who else could have predicted the current supply and labor messes and the rapid fall of Afghanistan? So his approval rating is tanking because he is doing-too-little about the current problems. But short of mobilizing the armed forces and hiring immigrants, which he's not doing, there's not much he can do. So we probably will get inadequate action in the next four years, and maybe no action at all or negative action if Harris is nominated in 2024. Climate action in this case will be limited to the blue states and whatever they can do without federal support.
At the end of the day, the public sees an old bumbling guy and a bevy of handwringers. Most people have no interst in politics; less in policy. So they use their guts and evaluate what they think should be happening against what actually is. It doesn't help that many media sources are actively opposed to the Dems on every level, and act as as partisan propagandists selling the misconceptions 24/7. Once Afghanistan went in the dumper, their work was easy.
No doubt; our work will not be easy. But fourth turnings are never easy. Our generations must rise to the challenge. We have a rendezvous with destiny. That's what our authors said. They didn't write that book to say our fourth turning would be easy!
Seth takes a closer look at shocking new details in the investigation of the January 6 insurrection that make it clear Trump and his gang were trying to stage a coup.
The Capitol Putsch looked horrible. What preceded looks even more criminal.
Everyone involved in this effort to nullify a free, fair, and honest election deserves the harshest measures that the legal system has available. The takeover of the Capitol may have had some semblance of spontaneity... that can no longer be accepted as truth. This was planned from the Trump White House. I wonder how much "Kochaine" was floating around.
The current GOP deserves to disintegrate after this. Most seem to have followed the script, and those deserve unending disgrace.
(12-15-2021, 12:13 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]The Capitol Putsch looked horrible. What preceded looks even more criminal.
Everyone involved in this effort to nullify a free, fair, and honest election deserves the harshest measures that the legal system has available. The takeover of the Capitol may have had some semblance of spontaneity... that can no longer be accepted as truth. This was planned from the Trump White House. I wonder how much "Kochaine" was floating around.
The current GOP deserves to disintegrate after this. Most seem to have followed the script, and those deserve unending disgrace.
True, but unlikely. Today's GOP isn't even interested in being a winning version of its older self. As a party, it's more than happy to rule by fiat, and it's working hard to make that happen.
(12-15-2021, 01:57 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 12:13 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]The Capitol Putsch looked horrible. What preceded looks even more criminal.
Everyone involved in this effort to nullify a free, fair, and honest election deserves the harshest measures that the legal system has available. The takeover of the Capitol may have had some semblance of spontaneity... that can no longer be accepted as truth. This was planned from the Trump White House. I wonder how much "Kochaine" was floating around.
The current GOP deserves to disintegrate after this. Most seem to have followed the script, and those deserve unending disgrace.
True, but unlikely. Today's GOP isn't even interested in being a winning version of its older self. As a party, it's more than happy to rule by fiat, and it's working hard to make that happen.
Yes. Sorry to say, but these days, what deserves to happen, rarely does.
(12-15-2021, 04:56 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 01:57 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 12:13 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]The Capitol Putsch looked horrible. What preceded looks even more criminal.
Everyone involved in this effort to nullify a free, fair, and honest election deserves the harshest measures that the legal system has available. The takeover of the Capitol may have had some semblance of spontaneity... that can no longer be accepted as truth. This was planned from the Trump White House. I wonder how much "Kochaine" was floating around.
The current GOP deserves to disintegrate after this. Most seem to have followed the script, and those deserve unending disgrace.
True, but unlikely. Today's GOP isn't even interested in being a winning version of its older self. As a party, it's more than happy to rule by fiat, and it's working hard to make that happen.
Yes. Sorry to say, but these days, what deserves to happen, rarely does.
Boldface item is classic example of history repeating itself. That very well describes those loyal to Hitler as well. Didn’t get them off at Nuremberg though.
(12-15-2021, 09:51 PM)beechnut79 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 04:56 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 01:57 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 12:13 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]The Capitol Putsch looked horrible. What preceded looks even more criminal.
Everyone involved in this effort to nullify a free, fair, and honest election deserves the harshest measures that the legal system has available. The takeover of the Capitol may have had some semblance of spontaneity... that can no longer be accepted as truth. This was planned from the Trump White House. I wonder how much "Kochaine" was floating around.
The current GOP deserves to disintegrate after this. Most seem to have followed the script, and those deserve unending disgrace.
True, but unlikely. Today's GOP isn't even interested in being a winning version of its older self. As a party, it's more than happy to rule by fiat, and it's working hard to make that happen.
Yes. Sorry to say, but these days, what deserves to happen, rarely does.
Boldface item is classic example of history repeating itself. That very well describes those loyal to Hitler as well. Didn’t get them off at Nuremberg though.
Yet
Leni Riefenstahl basically got a handwave and died at 101 in 2003. Others disappeared into Argentina and lived out their lives in reasonalbe luxury.
(12-15-2021, 01:57 PM)ve David Horn pid= Wrote: (12-15-2021, 12:13 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]The Capitol Putsch looked horrible. What preceded looks even more criminal.
Everyone involved in this effort to nullify a free, fair, and honest election deserves the harshest measures that the legal system has available. The takeover of the Capitol may have had some semblance of spontaneity... that can no longer be accepted as truth. This was planned from the Trump White House. I wonder how much "Kochaine" was floating around.
The current GOP deserves to disintegrate after this. Most seem to have followed the script, and those deserve unending disgrace.
True, but unlikely. Today's GOP isn't even interested in being a winning version of its older self. As a party, it's more than happy to rule by fiat, and it's working hard to make that happen.
Well, lucky for you, the Republican base still has some house cleaning to do before it turns its focus to destroying the Democratic party altogether. You're right, the Republican side isn't/hasn't been interested in saving/keeping the entire country together these days. It's going to be interesting to see which blue tribe or tribes come out on top during the 4T. I have to admit, it's kind of fun watching the shitty Democrats fucking themselves. Where did the Left find all these dumb fuckers that we've been seeing acting/ talking like dumb fuckers? Oh, BTW, you may be a little shocked to learn that you're whiteness doesn't really matter to us. Oh, your wife may be a little shocked to learn that gender doesn't matter to us either.
(12-15-2021, 09:51 PM)beechnut79 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 04:56 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 01:57 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 12:13 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]The Capitol Putsch looked horrible. What preceded looks even more criminal.
Everyone involved in this effort to nullify a free, fair, and honest election deserves the harshest measures that the legal system has available. The takeover of the Capitol may have had some semblance of spontaneity... that can no longer be accepted as truth. This was planned from the Trump White House. I wonder how much "Kochaine" was floating around.
The current GOP deserves to disintegrate after this. Most seem to have followed the script, and those deserve unending disgrace.
True, but unlikely. Today's GOP isn't even interested in being a winning version of its older self. As a party, it's more than happy to rule by fiat, and it's working hard to make that happen.
Yes. Sorry to say, but these days, what deserves to happen, rarely does.
Boldface item is classic example of history repeating itself. That very well describes those loyal to Hitler as well. Didn’t get them off at Nuremberg though.
At some point, you guys are going to have to pull your heads out of your asses and start thinking more like Americans instead of self serving Leftists and Democrats. If not, America is going to cut ties and withdraw it's support and leave you guys behind to rot/die.
(12-25-2021, 12:13 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 09:51 PM)beechnut79 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 04:56 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 01:57 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 12:13 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]The Capitol Putsch looked horrible. What preceded looks even more criminal.
Everyone involved in this effort to nullify a free, fair, and honest election deserves the harshest measures that the legal system has available. The takeover of the Capitol may have had some semblance of spontaneity... that can no longer be accepted as truth. This was planned from the Trump White House. I wonder how much "Kochaine" was floating around.
The current GOP deserves to disintegrate after this. Most seem to have followed the script, and those deserve unending disgrace.
True, but unlikely. Today's GOP isn't even interested in being a winning version of its older self. As a party, it's more than happy to rule by fiat, and it's working hard to make that happen.
Yes. Sorry to say, but these days, what deserves to happen, rarely does.
Boldface item is classic example of history repeating itself. That very well describes those loyal to Hitler as well. Didn’t get them off at Nuremberg though.
At some point, you guys are going to have to pull your heads out of your asses and start thinking more like Americans instead of self serving Leftists and Democrats. If not, America is going to cut ties and withdraw it's support and leave you guys behind to rot/die.
PLEASE,
DO cut ties and cut off from us. And, Merry Christmas to you, my favorite foil, Classic!
(12-24-2021, 11:59 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]ve David Horn pid=' dateline=\'1639594665' Wrote: (12-15-2021, 12:13 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]The Capitol Putsch looked horrible. What preceded looks even more criminal.
Everyone involved in this effort to nullify a free, fair, and honest election deserves the harshest measures that the legal system has available. The takeover of the Capitol may have had some semblance of spontaneity... that can no longer be accepted as truth. This was planned from the Trump White House. I wonder how much "Kochaine" was floating around.
The current GOP deserves to disintegrate after this. Most seem to have followed the script, and those deserve unending disgrace.
True, but unlikely. Today's GOP isn't even interested in being a winning version of its older self. As a party, it's more than happy to rule by fiat, and it's working hard to make that happen.
Well, lucky for you, the Republican base still has some house cleaning to do before it turns its focus to destroying the Democratic party altogether. You're right, the Republican side isn't/hasn't been interested in saving/keeping the entire country together these days. It's going to be interesting to see which blue tribe or tribes come out on top during the 4T. I have to admit, it's kind of fun watching the shitty Democrats fucking themselves. Where did the Left find all these dumb fuckers that we've been seeing acting/ talking like dumb fuckers? Oh, BTW, you may be a little shocked to learn that you're whiteness doesn't really matter to us. Oh, your wife may be a little shocked to learn that gender doesn't matter to us either.
Your side is only interested in white power, and the power of the wealthy in hopes that their wealth will trickle down to you. It doesn't. And you're right, those whites and females who don't buy into your nonsense do not matter to you, anymore than the nonwhites matter to you. Your side's philosophy is, as Nick Hanauer says, "we matter, and YOU Don't."
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=173308866679555
(12-24-2021, 11:59 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]Well, lucky for you, the Republican base still has some house cleaning to do before it turns its focus to destroying the Democratic party altogether. You're right, the Republican side isn't/hasn't been interested in saving/keeping the entire country together these days. It's going to be interesting to see which blue tribe or tribes come out on top during the 4T. I have to admit, it's kind of fun watching the shitty Democrats fucking themselves. Where did the Left find all these dumb fuckers that we've been seeing acting/ talking like dumb fuckers? Oh, BTW, you may be a little shocked to learn that you're whiteness doesn't really matter to us. Oh, your wife may be a little shocked to learn that gender doesn't matter to us either.
So what does? Personally, other than an ongoing petulance of grievance, I fail to see anything that does. Yes, the world, and I do mean your world, is changing. King Canute proved that stopping change by shear will doesn't work, so what's your plan? Burning it all down tends to be more the style of your supposed enemies.
(12-25-2021, 12:13 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 09:51 PM)beechnut79 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 04:56 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 01:57 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 12:13 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]The Capitol Putsch looked horrible. What preceded looks even more criminal.
Everyone involved in this effort to nullify a free, fair, and honest election deserves the harshest measures that the legal system has available. The takeover of the Capitol may have had some semblance of spontaneity... that can no longer be accepted as truth. This was planned from the Trump White House. I wonder how much "Kochaine" was floating around.
The current GOP deserves to disintegrate after this. Most seem to have followed the script, and those deserve unending disgrace.
True, but unlikely. Today's GOP isn't even interested in being a winning version of its older self. As a party, it's more than happy to rule by fiat, and it's working hard to make that happen.
Yes. Sorry to say, but these days, what deserves to happen, rarely does.
Boldface item is classic example of history repeating itself. That very well describes those loyal to Hitler as well. Didn’t get them off at Nuremberg though.
At some point, you guys are going to have to pull your heads out of your asses and start thinking more like Americans instead of self serving Leftists and Democrats. If not, America is going to cut ties and withdraw it's support and leave you guys behind to rot/die.
Dude, we Leftists and Democrats are Americans. Remember well that many Americans do not look like you, do not hold the same religious beliefs, and have cultural traditions that you would find alien. Obviously I would not fit in well in any Koreatown, but it has traditions just as valid as yours or mine.
What matters is the respect that people have for work, sobriety, enterprise, community, innovation, integrity, imagination, and formal learning. None of those is itself adequate for a good life. This has been so since America mitigated its racism.
I look at the credits for Pixar animated films and I see lots of Korean names.
Your side, should it cut its ties to my side, will miss much. My side has the creativity and talent. My side prefers education to superstition.
(12-24-2021, 11:59 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ]ve David Horn pid=' dateline=\'1639594665' Wrote: (12-15-2021, 12:13 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]The Capitol Putsch looked horrible. What preceded looks even more criminal.
Everyone involved in this effort to nullify a free, fair, and honest election deserves the harshest measures that the legal system has available. The takeover of the Capitol may have had some semblance of spontaneity... that can no longer be accepted as truth. This was planned from the Trump White House. I wonder how much "Kochaine" was floating around.
The current GOP deserves to disintegrate after this. Most seem to have followed the script, and those deserve unending disgrace.
True, but unlikely. Today's GOP isn't even interested in being a winning version of its older self. As a party, it's more than happy to rule by fiat, and it's working hard to make that happen.
Well, lucky for you, the Republican base still has some house cleaning to do before it turns its focus to destroying the Democratic party altogether. You're right, the Republican side isn't/hasn't been interested in saving/keeping the entire country together these days. It's going to be interesting to see which blue tribe or tribes come out on top during the 4T. I have to admit, it's kind of fun watching the (profanity excised) Democrats (profanity excised) themselves. Where did the Left find all these dumb (profanity excised) that we've been seeing acting/ talking like dumb (profanity excised)? Oh, BTW, you may be a little shocked to learn that you're whiteness doesn't really matter to us. Oh, your wife may be a little shocked to learn that gender doesn't matter to us either.
I don't know whether your Trump cult or the people that you call RINOs will be leaving the GOP. You can trust that we Democrats aren't going to soil ourselves in purging the "RINOs". At the least they seem to concur with us that liberty is more precious than getting one's way in a certain political cycle. We may need them to protect civil liberties even at the expense of social progress because if we lose our freedom,. then social progress will be either moot or moribund. One way or the other, whether by driving the totalitarian-roaders into a fringe party that loses relevance every year (example: by 1968 one of the few members of the National States' Rights Party that had formed to support segregation in 1948 was none other than James Earl Ray, assassin of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.), becoming the core of a conservative but anti-fascist GOP, becoming a Third Party that becomes the second main party while it rebuilds its political 'farm system' or generally goes Democratic for now... we will have a consensus among most Americans that violence, bigotry, demagoguery, and Bolshevik-style ruthlessness have no rule in American life... as was so before Trump and must be so again.
If your idea of a Republican 'house-cleaning' is something like a Night of the Long Knives or a Stalinist purge, then you have some weird idea of what it means to be an American. I have far more in common with an Iranian liberal than I have with an American fascist or Stalinist. I believe in law and order as a necessity for freedom, civil liberties, and domestic tranquility. Lynch mobs are not law and order.
By the way --
clean up your filthy language! Write as if your children could be reading your material; somebody else's children could be reading it.
(12-25-2021, 04:40 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ] (12-25-2021, 12:13 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 09:51 PM)beechnut79 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 04:56 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021, 01:57 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ]True, but unlikely. Today's GOP isn't even interested in being a winning version of its older self. As a party, it's more than happy to rule by fiat, and it's working hard to make that happen.
Yes. Sorry to say, but these days, what deserves to happen, rarely does.
Boldface item is classic example of history repeating itself. That very well describes those loyal to Hitler as well. Didn’t get them off at Nuremberg though.
At some point, you guys are going to have to pull your heads out of your asses and start thinking more like Americans instead of self serving Leftists and Democrats. If not, America is going to cut ties and withdraw it's support and leave you guys behind to rot/die.
PLEASE, DO cut ties and cut off from us. And, Merry Christmas to you, my favorite foil, Classic!
We're already in the process of doing it. The majority of you either won't know or figure it out until its to late. If you had a choice between being stuck with Hitler or Stalin, which would you choose?
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